That's was my first thought. Who would carry a firearm that they have not been to the range and put at least 100 rounds down range????
M&P Shield 40 won't go bang.
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That's was my first thought. Who would carry a firearm that they have not been to the range and put at least 100 rounds down range????
You and I would have to have a beer on you after a range session. You would be buying.
Firearms are packed from the factory to survive storage. That is very different from daily use. As well, you should always field strip a weapon "out of the box" just to be sure you are comfortable with it.
Aside from that, S&W does not consider the striker as a part of cleaning that the user does, so I would call & send it back as-is.
You and I would have to have a beer on you after a range session. You would be buying.
Firearms are packed from the factory to survive storage. That is very different from daily use. As well, you should always field strip a weapon "out of the box" just to be sure you are comfortable with it.
Aside from that, S&W does not consider the striker as a part of cleaning that the user does, so I would call & send it back as-is.
I like beer so, yeah, I'll buy. The only thing I did was remove the slide and barrel assembly when I got it. Everything was clean and oiled, so I didn't take the firing pin out etc. My main concern is always a barrel obstruction. When I buy surplus guns, I take them all the way down and go through them, just because of the fact they are used. I guess I've learned a lesson here, but the gun has a problem that I wouldn't have identified anyway not being that familiar with a striker fired pistol. I'm sure Smith will make it right.
Calm down people, I carried it like twice when I had my regulars put up! But I get it! It is just a pain to get to the range with my work schedule. I just picked it up because it was convenient, and it never crossed my mind a factory fired weapon wouldn't work. For all of you out there, consider it LESSON LEARNED on my end!
If it was missing parts how did they test fire it at the factory? Did it come with the test cartridge in the box?
Yup, have the factory cartridge. That is why I had no qualms about carrying it the few times I did. And for the other folks that chimed in, sometimes criticism is a little hard for me to digest, but even though the range is a bit far off for me, I'm comfortable with handling whatever, unless the gun is just not a good fit. To me, the shield is more like a revolver than anything, and handling it, I felt comfortable carrying it, but you guys have let me know in no uncertain terms I was probably not doing what was in my best interest. And SundownIII, I do actually appreciate your feedback even though you made me feel like an idiot, but that said, I'm over it and your feedback is welcome. Sometimes a reality check is what one needs, and I've learned a good lesson. So, for all you guys that busted my chops, have a beer on me! I pride myself on firearms safety, and like Sundown, being an AF type myself, we only shoot every 2 years (M4) and being a mechanic, well if they hand me a weapon, the war has already taken a bad turn. I've been a multiple mid east deployer, but compared to your service, well, I have no comparison, so I meant what I said thanking you for your service. Sometimes being called out as a dumb*** is what one needs to get back on the right track. This forum has provided me with fantastic information and I'm glad to be here.
I'm rarely surprised at the condition of things "new out of the box" even if you did get the test fire casing. We had that run here of folks buying the .22 Compact and only getting one advertised mag when it supposedly shipped with two from the factory. What goes on in the back room of a store ...
I've seen parts missing before. A bit of cannibalization? Swapped out a slide? Mags for a different gun? Screws stripped in a "new" revolver (from another company).
I'd say it is not impossible that something "happened" between the test fire and your hands. But S&W CS is good about getting things right.
I've seen parts missing before. A bit of cannibalization? Swapped out a slide? Mags for a different gun? Screws stripped in a "new" revolver (from another company).
I'd say it is not impossible that something "happened" between the test fire and your hands. But S&W CS is good about getting things right.
Just to clarify the missing part for my situation was the sear pin, and the gun fired just fine but the take down lever caused a jam and the problem was noticed as soon as I tore it down to inspect the problem that is was the first couple hours of ownership and sent back to S&W the next day.
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Rastoff I bow to your knowledge of the M&P and I really don't know if there should be a click or not but I already told the OP in post #2 to remove the striker and inspect it but for some reason he refused to do it which only takes 5 minutes including watching the You Tube video. Go figure
Rastoff
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Yeah, you can lead a horse to water...Rastoff I bow to your knowledge of the M&P and I really don't know if there should be a click or not but I already told the OP in post #2 to remove the striker and inspect it but for some reason he refused to do it which only takes 5 minutes including watching the You Tube video. Go figure
The reason it won't make a click, no striker fired gun would if the striker wasn't there, is because it's the striker that makes the click. The striker tang is what mates with the sear.
Since there's no hammer, without the striker to release, no click. The sear will just pivot and nothing will happen.
I'm thinking he has a broken striker. If the tip broke off, there would be nothing to hit the primer, but the tang would still contact the sear.
Here's a visual on how to check the function of the striker and striker block: (sorry for the stutter in the middle)
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That is a huge assumption to make and one that could cost a person their life.
Who is to say the factory worker did not feel like firing the firearm you bought as he/she has thousands to test and fell behind for an hour or day and just threw in a spent shell casing to make it look like the weapon was tested?
Well some recommend tinkering with it as you said it is brand new which says to me, "Use the warranty."
I gotta tell ya, you guys have set me straight! I'll report what the problem is as soon as I find out. I am no expert on a striker fired pistol, so my lack of experience with it has gotten me hammered. But like a revolver, it is point and click, and within 10 yards or so, things should be fine. I never looked at it as a good range gun, just a good close quarter weapon. But a click and no bang could've put me in a bad situation before I could break out my backup. Even the negative feedback I appreciate, because sometimes lessons need to be learned the hard way.
