M&P Shield 9mm or Kahr CW9 for carry

[MX5Fan]

I have the Kahr PM9 and the Shield 9...love them both. I've not had one issue with my Kahr and have put hundreds of rounds through it, I would trust it with my life. I don't have as many rounds down range with my Shield, as it's still relatively new, but based upon my experience with my M&P's (3 other pistols) I don't anticipate any issues with the Shield. In my experience, the M&P line is spot on.

To each his or her own. You can't go wrong with either one, it's a matter of what feels good to you.

 

[DocSunShine]

The CN40 had some issues with mag followers, not the 9mm as far as I know. Kahr has been very good about fixing them for those affected.

Maybe the 9mm is better, but the .40 is complete junk.

 

[BeachBow]

XDS

'nuff said!! LOL!!

 

[preliminary]

Hello to all members:

I feel disappointed as We that have some pistols . . . . S&W ! So when we are in need on parts The S&W refuse to supply that specific parts.
I have a question on what is their responsibility as a distributer, or as a Dealer , to provide the parts as need by their customer's; or is like they don't want to go the extra mile to help those persons that have purchased their bred new PISTOLS!? I don't believe that they are restricted to supply parts for our pistols; they only want to close the Doro on our face. What is your opinion?

 

[wrhk33]

Before the Shield came out I got a CM9. Went to the tech forum for Kahrs and did a lot of reading. Followed all the tips. My gun is finicky with ball ammo. The 7 round mag never was reliable. The followers of both the 6 and 7 round mags hit the mag catch on the way up. I don't understand why they would design it that way. The only reason I carry it is because it fits in my front pocket.
The Shield is bigger but if I had to do it again I would pass on the Kahr.
I feel it is too finicky on ammo and magazines.

 

[pistol]

I love, love love my Shield! I have shot about 700 rounds through it so far and it has never failed me. It is accurate. The only problem I have with it is after taking it down and cleaning and putting it back together you have to lock the slide back. It is so stiff and hard to get it all the way back & lock. It could be that I am a woman with small weak hands. I am 63. It is slowly getting easier. That spring is so stiff, I hope it will eventually break in. I am very happy with it, especially after having issues with my Bodyguard 380 which is a bit finicky with ammo. I feel like the Shield is more reliable, but harder to conceal. I can carry in my purse just fine, don't know if I could conceal on body like I can the 380. Having a harder time finding 380 ammo also. My store has quite a bit of 9mm now so this is now my favorite gun to shoot, besides my M&P 15-22 rifle, LOL.

 

[Squash15B]

CW9 v M&P Shield

Have had both, but I prefer the Shield for several reasons:

The Shield has a safety that the Kahr does not have.
The Shield, being S&W, will have a better selection of holsters available when the dust settles.
The rails on the Kahr polymers are not reinforced with steel.
The Shield trigger, a personal preference issue, is like the triggers on the other M&P guns. Aftermarket APEX trigger kits for the Shield make it even better than it is from the factory.

Gave my CW9 to my son. He likes it, but likes the Shield better.

Both of our guns have CT chin lasers on them.

Have had 3 Kahrs and 5 M&Ps at one time or another over the years. The M&Ps will win hands down 90% of the time for me. If you have an interest in another great, but underappreciated gun, try the Ruger SR9c. The Shield is slightly thinner, but the SR9c is a more robust gun than either the Shield or CW9.

 

[csi1158]

Smith or Kahr

I know this is a S&W
forum but I am torn between these two handguns for personal carry. I am not interested in the smaller framed Kahrs. What are the pros and cons of these two pieces. Interested minds want to know.

I bought the 40 cal. MP Shield and I've had problems with magazine dropping while shooting a magazine. The dealer said to pump some more rounds through it, hoping apparently to loosing things up. It's tough to get rounds through it when every other round fails to feed property. Go with the Kahr.

 

[MX5Fan]

I love, love love my Shield! I have shot about 700 rounds through it so far and it has never failed me. It is accurate. The only problem I have with it is after taking it down and cleaning and putting it back together you have to lock the slide back. It is so stiff and hard to get it all the way back & lock. It could be that I am a woman with small weak hands. I am 63. It is slowly getting easier. That spring is so stiff, I hope it will eventually break in. I am very happy with it, especially after having issues with my Bodyguard 380 which is a bit finicky with ammo. I feel like the Shield is more reliable, but harder to conceal. I can carry in my purse just fine, don't know if I could conceal on body like I can the 380. Having a harder time finding 380 ammo also. My store has quite a bit of 9mm now so this is now my favorite gun to shoot, besides my M&P 15-22 rifle, LOL.

Hey, pistol. I'm with you on the tight spring on the Shield. It can be a bear to lock back when putting it back together after cleaning. It's definitely not as easy as my M&P 9 and 9c. Hopefully, it'll get easier

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[Hunter991]

Have had both, but I prefer the Shield for several reasons:

The Shield has a safety that the Kahr does not have.
The Shield, being S&W, will have a better selection of holsters available when the dust settles.
The rails on the Kahr polymers are not reinforced with steel.
The Shield trigger, a personal preference issue, is like the triggers on the other M&P guns. Aftermarket APEX trigger kits for the Shield make it even better than it is from the factory.

Gave my CW9 to my son. He likes it, but likes the Shield better.

Both of our guns have CT chin lasers on them.

Have had 3 Kahrs and 5 M&Ps at one time or another over the years. The M&Ps will win hands down 90% of the time for me. If you have an interest in another great, but underappreciated gun, try the Ruger SR9c. The Shield is slightly thinner, but the SR9c is a more robust gun than either the Shield or CW9.

Not true on the rails. They are not polymer they have steel inlay. Geeezzzz

 

[HoWink]

I'm with those who say it's mostly personal preference. I bought a CW9 for my wife (she dry fired it several times at the store), but she just couldn't get comfortable with the trigger after we took it home and loaded it up - same with my three daughters, who have a habit of walking off with my favorite guns. I tried the CW9 myself, loved it, and it's now my EDC. I like that the sear releases with absolutely no stacking or warning, and the ergonomics are great. I consider the long trigger pull the equivalent of a safety. My wife is lusting after a Shield, but for now she's very happy with her Chief's Special C9.

Both are quality guns, in my opinion. Try both and buy the one you shoot best.

HoWink

 

[vegasgunhand]

I carried a P9 for many years and it served me well. I bought a Shield the third day they were released. I took them both to the range to see which one I liked better. They both shot well, but I started to lean toward the shield.

The next day I was sitting at my work bench and cleaning both pistols. As I wiped down my P9, I was shocked to find that both frame rails had begun to crack. The left side rail was less than a quarter of an inch from seperating from the frame. In the over five years I had that pistol, I had shot less than 500 rounds through it. I estimate I was one or two magazines away from having a catastrophic malfunction. I sent the P9 back to Kahr, and because it was out of warranty, I had to pay $250.00 to have the frame replaced.

During the time my Kahr was back at the factory, I shot a total of 680 rounds through my Shield. I did not have a single malfunction. The Shield is completely solid!

When I got my Kahr back, a friend of mine wanted it, and since I no longer had any confidence in the Kahr, it went to a new home. (And yes, I advised my friend of the frame problem, but he didn't care.)

IMHO as a firearms instructor for over thirty years, the Shield is the better of the two pistols, and is what I now carry on a daily basis!

 

[bxny10455]

I have the Shield9 & the CM9. I used to carry the CM9 until I took a 2 day course with it at front sight. I had all kinds of type 3 malfunctions during the course. The one issue most people have with the Kahr CM/PM is the mag doesn't drop free from the factory. My other issue was drawing the gun with a proper grip fast enough get good hits before the flip target turned away was a task. I don't have that problem with a FS gun or my friends Shield which I shot briefly during the course. From my experience if I shoot slow I would get no malfunctions but if I do control pairs my CM9 falls short. Needless to say I retired the CM9.

 

[alchemist]

This thread is a couple of years old but I was interested in the topic and it has to still be relevant. I own a CM9 and a shield and once owned a CW9. Let's first look at the specs. CM9 and shield have same barrel length. The shield is 1/4 pound heavier. The shield is a little over 1/2 longer. And the shield is a bit over 1/2" taller. They serve 2 entirely different roles. What you say? Absolutley. The CM9 is a superb pocket gun, the shield, not so because of its larger heavier everything. The shield is a better side hip carry gun. They are entirely different. Yea you can carry a shiled in your pocket but it's not as comfortable as the CM9. You can hip carry a CM9 but why not carry a pistol with a full size grip when the longer mag is used with the shield. The CM9 handles recoil so well i shoot it as well as the longer grip CW9. The trigger pull is long but smooth and for a pistol of it's size, it is the best. It is close to the lightest of all pocket carry 9mms, has the best trigger pull and handles recoil the best because ot he low bore axis to the grip. I had the keltecs before the CM9 and there is no comparison. They are no fun to shoot. When you go to the CW9 the shield is probably superior because of its short pull and reset. The you can add an apex trigger and there's no contest. However lets look now at the CW9 and the shield. Something no one mentions. Shield oal is 6", the CW9 about the same. Barrel length is 3.5" for the CW9, 3" for the shield, same as the "pocket carry" CM9. Long before the M&P's existed, professionals all over the world: police and security bought up Kahrs as backup and secondary guns. Why, because they were utterly reliable, had the best trigger pulls, and they were of the highest quality. These are guys who's lives depended on these guns. If you go to the Kahr forum, the kahrs edge out the shield. I carry both a shield for hip carry and a CM9 for pocket carry. I'd also rather have a 9mm in my pocket than a .380.