M&P tacti-cool mods?

I had considered the cmmg 22 as well, and may still buy one, but I think that's a pretty expensive route to take right now.

Shawn, the PTS stocks I've seen were from 65 to 125, depending on seller and time, but I've seen versions of the ACS, MOE and CTR for airsoft as low as $35. Are you happy with the build quality of your EMOD. I've noticed some of the stocks I've found seem to be of lower quality when compared to the original (but I expect that for such a significant price reduction). I may look into one of the less expensive magpul stocks for right now.

James
 
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It's not that bad. I've got it on my rifle for the look. If I were looking more for function, I'd still have the ACS I put on my brother's rifle. You might try AR15.com, in the Equipment Exchange and watch for the stocks that people post for sale. If you're patient, you might be able to score a real EMOD, ACS, SOPMOD or something else for a good price.
 
thanks for the info. I never think to check the other forums when I'm looking for parts. I frequent a few and seem to be oblivious to the fact that others are out there.

James.
 
found a PTS ACS stock online for $75 shipped. Is that a good deal? Seems alright to me, but not a can't pass it up price. Are the PTS stocks of similar build quality to the normal magpuls?

Also, just seen my local FFL's add has new 15-22's for $379.

James.
 
well, I bit the bullet and purchased an ACS I found online for $65. Hopefully it works as well as everyone seems to think.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement grip? I'm kind of leaning toward the Hogue grip, but I like the weighted, target style grips with the bench pad built in as well.

James.
 
well, I bit the bullet and purchased an ACS I found online for $65. Hopefully it works as well as everyone seems to think.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement grip? I'm kind of leaning toward the Hogue grip, but I like the weighted, target style grips with the bench pad built in as well.

James.

Houge all the way. If your going for precision then maybe, ....maybe you want to look at a weighted grip. But the houge, at $20, is more than worth it's wieght in gold.
 
yeah, I've been pretty pleased with them on my other guns. They just the best looking thing in the world. Function wins over form I guess.

James
 
Absolutely Hogue! The rubber molded over a fiberglass core is extremely comfortable. After shooting my 1st Gen 15-22, my brother had to get one of his own. He got a MOE and has been ecstatic with everything.....but the MOE grip. It just doesn't compare to my Hogue. He comments on it every time we talk (almost every day.)
 
I had originally posted about creating a long range version of my rifle, but I've recently found a local smith that can thread my barrel so I plan to go the more common route for a carbine and maybe save the long-range plans for a COLT SPR M-16 in 22 (fixed stock, quad rail and rifle length barrel. I know they aren't well liked, but it is better suited to my plan and barrel is already 1/2 x 28).

Now my question is still basically the same. What is the best source for a replacement stock for our little guns? I've seen a lot of magpul products used, but I'm not sure I can justify 100 dollars just because a stock looks better. Do any of the usual replacement stocks offer any extra length or a better cheek rest as these are both areas I feel need improvement on the 15-22 and would then justify the money?

Also, is anyone running a barrel shroud along with a fake suppressor or is it mostly a one or the other type deal? I've looked at the picture thread but I can't remember seeing any and I don't have time to go back through all 140 pages right now.

Current mods are 3.5 pound springs and polished surfaces(to be installed later this weekend) Pro-mag Vertical grip, too tall riser (to be swapped out for Tapco or other 3/4" riser when funds allow) and 30mm bushnell trophy reddot yet to be sighted in. And 2 extra mags. Will post pics when I can beg/borrow use of a camera or post from cell as last ditch effort.

I'm old, so you should take the following with whatever helping of salt is required.

0) It's a rifle, not a prom dress. Who cares what it looks like as long as it shoots straight? :)

1) I don't know what kind of stock you currently have, but the stock you select should be selected more for its function than for its looks. My M&P MOE came with all Magpul MOE furniture. While the stock was a six-position collapsible, it was not as tight a fit as I was looking for, so I upgraded to the Magpul CTR stock. It has an additional friction-locking lever that eliminates the rattle. It also has a bushed hole to mount a QD sling swivel in. Very handy, but I don't use it right now. There are many other brands of stocks available, so choose the one that *functions* best for you. Looks truly are secondary (but I find that the more functional the stock, the cooler looking it is).

2) Yes there are stocks available with adjustable cheek risers, but they're at the upper end as far as price goes. You can also find add-on cheek risers, but I don't know how reliable/useful they are. When you find one or two, Google for reviews and see what actual users say. Adding one of these risers will definitely be less expensive than buying a $200+ stock.

3) You should check our primaryarms.com for red-dot scopes. They have a lot of reasonably priced and well reviewed scopes.

4) Your aim should be to make the rifle more comfortable and reliable to shoot.

5) I honestly don't understand the love of rails in the AR community. it makes the rifle difficult to grip, and people feel compelled to consume every inch of rail with some off-the-wall accessory. If you keep it simple, there's a lot less to go wrong, and the weapon remains light and maneuverable.
 
QUOTE=jsimmons;135590562]I'm old, so you should take the following with whatever helping of salt is required.

0) It's a rifle, not a prom dress. Who cares what it looks like as long as it shoots straight? :) I readily agree that the most important thing with any gun is how it shoots, and the 15-22 has accuracy in spades in my opinion. Still, to borrow your analogy, no one wants to have an ugly, uncomfortable prom dress if there is the option of changing/modifying it to suit tastes/needs better. I think the only purely "mall ninja" cosmetic accessory I might add is a barrel shroud becase I like how they look, though this could be added to the improved function category as I've heard reports the rifle is actually more accurate with the shroud because of improved barrel harmonics with the extra weight.

1) I don't know what kind of stock you currently have, but the stock you select should be selected more for its function than for its looks. My M&P MOE came with all Magpul MOE furniture. While the stock was a six-position collapsible, it was not as tight a fit as I was looking for, so I upgraded to the Magpul CTR stock. It has an additional friction-locking lever that eliminates the rattle. It also has a bushed hole to mount a QD sling swivel in. Very handy, but I don't use it right now. There are many other brands of stocks available, so choose the one that *functions* best for you. Looks truly are secondary (but I find that the more functional the stock, the cooler looking it is). My gun is the plain vanilla model with standard grip, sights, and carbine stock. Because of it's general lack of comfort, I am looking to replace the factory stock. That it rattles, is generally uncomfortable and lacks in both cheek and shoulder contact points are my main arguments, but the fact is that stock is also homely as a mud fence. I can abide something being ugly if it functions correctly (savage rifles come to mind) or I can see where someone may choose form over function (Cadilac Escalade vs Chevy Blazer/GMC Yukon). I can't work with something that is both ugly and substandard in performance. In my area there is not a great call for "BLACK" guns, so I can't walk into my local shop(s) to compare stocks, grips, sights, etc. as they just don't carry that many options. I am forced to buy online, where I sometimes may have to choose based on limited user reviews or simply based on which item looks the best to me. My choice of an ACS was mainly based on reviews I've seen, my reasoning that it looked to have the better cheek and shoulder areas I was looking for, and the simple fact that it seems much better looking than my factory piece. I must admit that price point also plays a part in my decisions (walmart does NOT over pay their employees).

2) Yes there are stocks available with adjustable cheek risers, but they're at the upper end as far as price goes. You can also find add-on cheek risers, but I don't know how reliable/useful they are. When you find one or two, Google for reviews and see what actual users say. Adding one of these risers will definitely be less expensive than buying a $200+ stock.Yeah, these stocks are at the upper end of the spectrum and better suited to higher end builds. I admit I'd like to have one, but I realize they are not functional for our guns and they just aren't practical in this price point.

3) You should check our primaryarms.com for red-dot scopes. They have a lot of reasonably priced and well reviewed scopes.
Have been considering it actually. the M3 with co-witness mount seems to be my favorite, but I'm hesitant to spend more for another red dot as it is now purely a cosmetic decision as I already have a perfectly functional Bushnell Trophy dot, and just need a lower riser.

4) Your aim should be to make the rifle more comfortable and reliable to shoot. I thought that was what I was trying to do... If it also happens to get less ugly, that's just a bonus:D

5) I honestly don't understand the love of rails in the AR community. it makes the rifle difficult to grip, and people feel compelled to consume every inch of rail with some off-the-wall accessory. If you keep it simple, there's a lot less to go wrong, and the weapon remains light and maneuverable.[/QUOTE]Yeah, here I agree with you. I have a VFG, and that is really the only rail accessory I might add other than maybe a sling attachment point. I seen the guys with Lasers and lights, bipods, etc. and it does look cool, but I can't justify it for MY uses of THIS gun. were I building a .223 go to war gun (my choice would be 6.8mm anyway) or using my gun for cheap training in place of the centerfire weapon then I would definitely want some additional items.
 
@wolfe21

I don't have the .22 version of the rifle. I have the MOE, and have made a few changes to it, but nothing that much changes the appearance of the rifle. I ordered a microdot (gen 3) from primary arms yesterday, and am currently looking for some magnified optics (seriously considering a Nikon M-223 2-8x32 BDC).

I've changed the stock, trigger guard, charging handle latch, flash suppressor, pistol grip, and both the front and rear sights. I also added a VFG and an ASAP.
 
@wolfe21

I don't have the .22 version of the rifle. I have the MOE, and have made a few changes to it, but nothing that much changes the appearance of the rifle. I ordered a microdot (gen 3) from primary arms yesterday, and am currently looking for some magnified optics (seriously considering a Nikon M-223 2-8x32 BDC).

I've changed the stock, trigger guard, charging handle latch, flash suppressor, pistol grip, and both the front and rear sights. I also added a VFG and an ASAP.

Sounds good. How about a picture or several?
 
Here it is the way I bought it:

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And this is what it looks like now:

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Yes, I can see where you would want form to follow function on your rifle. It is very nice, though my personal preference seems to be toward all black finish. I've no use for sand camo where I live(foliage/woodland or snow camo are more practical for me).
 
Here it is the way I bought it:

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And this is what it looks like now:

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Quick question, Would this grip work/install to the 15 22 without issues?( the 15 22 is supposed to fit any thing a AR15 does, so I'm assuming it will work) Im dying to add this grip to my 15 22. I know the model is CAA UPG16. Just cant figure if I want the black or tan grip, as the black seems to have two different shades of black,( one on the grip, another on the finger grooves) so it kind of stands out more than the tan does. Thanks in advance to any one that can answer my question.
 
Quick question, Would this grip work/install to the 15 22 without issues?( the 15 22 is supposed to fit any thing a AR15 does, so I'm assuming it will work) Im dying to add this grip to my 15 22. I know the model is CAA UPG16. Just cant figure if I want the black or tan grip, as the black seems to have two different shades of black,( one on the grip, another on the finger grooves) so it kind of stands out more than the tan does. Thanks in advance to any one that can answer my question.

It should fit just fine. I got mine from Brownell's, but they didn't have the black on in stock. The tan one is two different colors as well. The base grip is closer to FDE, and the replacable grips/backstraps are lighter. I actually wanted black inserts on the tan grip.
 
I'm pretty sure the CAA grip will work, but I think you may have a small gap where the dove tail section is. I hope someone else can comment, but I'm pretty sure I've seen that grip on a 15-22 before, just with a minimal gap.
 
My ACS came in today. Haven't had time to mount it yet, but I'm impressed by the quality of the piece and it definitely looks like it'll be more comfortable.

Now all that's left is the grip, shroud and maybe a new optic. Does anyone have any opinions on the Primary Arms M3 optic (69.99)? How durable are they (I'm not planning to use it for a hammer or anything, but I don't want it to shake apart if I put it on something with some recoil either (12 ga, .223)? I'm trying to decide if replacing my Bushnell is the right idea since I'll either need a new riser (15-20) or just buying the m3 (70-80 with cowitness mount) is a better idea. I've also got an 870 Tactical and a beretta neos that I could mount the Bushnell on, so...?
 
Go with the high cantilever mount for the PA M3. I put a higher Troy cantillever mount on mine and like it very much.
 
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