M&Ps without rails?

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Reminds me of the old Red Green saying "If it ain't broke-you're not trying hard enough"
I don't like the rail-prefer the clean look without it-but it be what it be.
Just pretend it isn't there

 

[GKC]

...removing them would be for aesthetic purposes only and would more than likely effect resale value.

It is purely an aesthetic issue for me...I wouldn't expect it to improve function, only appearance. As the saying goes, though, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder...and a future prospective buyer may not want the gun because it had been modified. It would also almost certainly void the warranty.

All of this is why I wish there was a factory option, a rail-less model to choose from. I know it won't happen, since those who don't want the rail, or care enough to buy a model without a rail, are a lot fewer than those who either want one or don't care.

Just pretend it isn't there

I tried that when my mother-in-law visits...doesn't work.

 

[Vinney47]

I tried that when my mother-in-law visits...doesn't work.

That's because mother-in-laws are stinky and noisy. The rails on your m&p...?

 

[Deadeye Dick]

Don't care one way or the other when it comes to full sized service pistols. I don't expect I will ever hang anything off of my handgun though. IMO flashlights belong in the off hand, held away from not in front of my body, and a bayonet on a hand gun has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen. The only thing that might ever reside on my full sized M&P's rail would be a laser if my aging eyes were to get to that point.

Rails on compact and concealed carry pistols are another matter. IMO rails on this type of weapon are a detriment to their intended purpose. My DC is a Kel-Tec P-11. It has clean, smooth lines and is easily concealable with no sharp corners or edges on the dust cover to dig into my flesh.

 

[angus411]

I am familiar with the hold the light away from the body also called the F.B.I. method as that is what they used to teach in their academy years ago,but I was also taught the cross arm stance with the off hand holding the light under the strong hand supporting the gun.The only problem with holding the light away from the body is that it allows light to be shown on yourself easier,so they stopped teaching that method.
I am by no means an expert by any stretch of the imagination,I am only going by what we were taught in our course by our instructors who were law enforcement instructors for their respective departments.My training was for O.P.O.T.A.(Ohio Peace Officers Training Academy) about 20 some years ago,and I am sure they have gone back in forth many times since that time about the best method,but for me if I am using a flashlight in my weak hand I use the cross arm stance which give me better support as well.

 

[shawn mccarver]

I happened to be on Ford's web site today on another matter, and I thought I would re-visit this thread because I noticed that they offer an "accessory rail removal service."

There are before and after pictures, and as usual, they really seem to do a professional looking job.

Here it is:

Accessory Rail Removal

The cost is listed as $100.00, but unfortunately, they SAY they only offer the service on metal frames. Maybe you could be persuasive?

 

[Murdock]

I almost bought a bayonet for my handgun's rail when I first saw one in the display case of my LGS. It just looked so ...stupid, that I thought it would make for a good joke at the next action pistol match. But paying $40 for it would have been really stupid, funny or not.

When I was a paratrooper I hated the way my reserve parachute made my combat equipment look. Covered up all my neat knives, shoulder holster, ammo pouches and stuff like that. They still made me use it, though. Some nonsense about how I might really need it some day.

 

[Ed333]

You are far from alone.
How about some black Gorilla brand duct tape, judiciously applied? Non-invasive, reversible, doesn't change the weight noticeably...??? If I had an M&P C.O.R.E. I would try it. I am irritated that they dropped the M&P Pro, I don't need/want a red dot sight, or a flashlight, and those 3 white dots on the non-adjustable sights pretty much kill it for me. I will not be buying one. Hear that, S&W? ...oh well....

 

[Deadeye Dick]

Wow! That PT38S looks so much cleaner without the rail. I would love to see a full sized M&P without a rail.

 

[Deadeye Dick]

I almost bought a bayonet for my handgun's rail when I first saw one in the display case of my LGS. It just looked so ...stupid, that I thought it would make for a good joke at the next action pistol match. But paying $40 for it would have been really stupid, funny or not.

When I was a paratrooper I hated the way my reserve parachute made my combat equipment look. Covered up all my neat knives, shoulder holster, ammo pouches and stuff like that. They still made me use it, though. Some nonsense about how I might really need it some day.

LOL, I suspect the chance of you needing the reserve chute was far greater than you ever "needing" a rail on your pistol. But point taken.

 

[angus411]

WOW I am not a fan of the Taurus, but that is a really nice looking gun.Thanks for sharing the info and link.

 

[Deadeye Dick]

I almost bought a bayonet for my handgun's rail when I first saw one in the display case of my LGS. It just looked so ...stupid, that I thought it would make for a good joke at the next action pistol match. But paying $40 for it would have been really stupid, funny or not.

When I was a paratrooper I hated the way my reserve parachute made my combat equipment look. Covered up all my neat knives, shoulder holster, ammo pouches and stuff like that. They still made me use it, though. Some nonsense about how I might really need it some day.

LOL, I suspect the chance of you needing the reserve chute was far greater than you ever "needing" a rail on your pistol. But point taken.

 

[GtownGeorge]

No rail

Here ya go.

 

[angus411]

GtownGeorge did you do that yourself or have a company do it for you,and if you had someone do it how much did it cost?It looks pretty good

 

[GtownGeorge]

angus.... sorry I just altered a picture to see what it would look like. I was surprised how much I 'cut off' to get it to look right. I would guess it would negatively impact frame strength.

 

[GKC]

When I was a paratrooper I hated the way my reserve parachute made my combat equipment look. Covered up all my neat knives, shoulder holster, ammo pouches and stuff like that. They still made me use it, though. Some nonsense about how I might really need it some day.

If I was going to jump out of a perfectly good airplane (which I have absolutely no plans to do) then I would definitely want a reserve chute...or four or ten. I still wouldn't want a rail on my handgun then either.

 

[GKC]

Here ya go.View attachment 126789

Wow...that looks so good. I wish they made one like that! Especially the compact models. At least the Shield doesn't have a rail, and I assume it's because the frame/barrel length is just too short.