Man Arrested For Too Much Ammo...

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I'm glad I wasn't stopped while carrying the 10 500 round value packs of 22lr I purchased a while back.


http://www.eagletribune.com/pu...tml?keyword=topstory

"HAVERHILL — Keni Garcia told police he intended to use the 30,000 bullets they found in his car and home for target practice.

That is hard to believe, the prosecutor at Garcia's arraignment said, because if he were to fire a gun for eight hours a day, it would take weeks for him to use all of it.

Garcia, who allegedly bought thousands of rounds of ammunition and had 10,000 bullets in his car when he was stopped by police Thursday, was ordered held on $500,000 cash bail yesterday."
 
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Hang on... your title is misleading.

The actual charges were, according to the story:
"Garcia is charged with three counts of possession of a high-capacity firearm, illegal possession of ammunition and illegal storage of a firearm."

He lives in Massachusetts, which has its own byzantine mess of gun laws, which DO include safe-storage requirements.

He wasn't charged with having "too much ammo". The prosecutor brought that up as supporting evidence for the other charges, I'm sure.
 
Just went with the bold article headline. Draw your own conclusions...


Police: Man said 30,000 bullets were for target practice

"Garcia is charged with three counts of possession of a high-capacity firearm, illegal possession of ammunition and illegal storage of a firearm."
 
Originally posted by Jetstream:
Just went with the bold article headline. Draw your own conclusions...

Police: Man said 30,000 bullets were for target practice

And WHERE does the article say - anywhere - that the arrest was for "too much ammo?"

A BS caption for a BS news story. Not to mention the fact that 10,000 rounds is merely 2 cases of .22 LR ammo. Further, given the ammo shortages in the Northeast, stockpiling is common.

And he didn't buy "bullets;" he bought cartridges. Typical MS Media ignorance and hype.
 
Originally posted by zercool:
Hang on... your title is misleading.

The actual charges were, according to the story:
"Garcia is charged with three counts of possession of a high-capacity firearm, illegal possession of ammunition and illegal storage of a firearm."

He lives in Massachusetts, which has its own byzantine mess of gun laws, which DO include safe-storage requirements.

He wasn't charged with having "too much ammo". The prosecutor brought that up as supporting evidence for the other charges, I'm sure.

So how many rounds of ammunition must one possess to be in violation of whatever Mass. law considers "illegal possession of ammunition"? 5,000? 10,000? 20,000? 29,999?

Sounds to me like an overzelous PD and a idiot prosecutor. Anyone who would say something like, "if he were to fire a gun for eight hours a day, it would take weeks for him to use all of it" is obviously ignorant when it comes to modern firearms and their use. With the help of a couple of my fellow instructors, I have seen numerous afternoons where we fired several thousand rounds of ammunition. And I've watched my son eat up four or five bulk boxes of .22 ammo on a weekend several times.
 
I once bought and loaded 10,000 .45ACP rounds and fired them in 6 weeks prepping for a big match.
Two things you can't have too much of...money and ammo!!
 
I believe that Mass. has a law related to storing a max of 10,000 rds of centerfire ammo. Regardless, there's more to this story. The guy arrested had moved to MA and had taken hi cap mags into the state with him, and also hadn't gotten his papers in order to possess guns there. While that might be arguable, since there is a grace period, the real reason that the guy was busted seems to have been suspicion that he was smuggling ammunition into the Dominican Republic. He wasn't a U.S. citizen, though was scheduled to become one, and also had a large amount of cash on him. He vaguely stated that he was in the "import/export business".

What basically happened is that the authorities thought that he was illegally exporting ammo et al and simply charged him with what was handy while they sorted things out.
 
Originally posted by GatorFarmer:
I believe that Mass. has a law related to storing a max of 10,000 rds of centerfire ammo.

Well hell, he's in luck considering 22LR is rimfire.
 
It's going to take him a long time to shoot all of that 22LR... in his 38 and 9mm guns. The story would indicate that he didn't have a 22.

It looks like they were "profiling" him though... he was a citizen the Dominican Republic buying large amounts of ammo.

I would have a different take on this if it were Bubba Lee Smith... or even Juan Lopez who were citizens and long term residents of the little town.
 
Simply put, there is a much more detailed thread running on this over on the sigforum. Yes, I would think most of us who post here would run afoul of the law. Except we don't live behind enemy lines in MA. What that once fine state is doing is telling us we don't want any part of the people's republic they're trying to create.

There may or should also be a distinction between owning "too much ammo" and storing it all in the same place. Ammo in your car represents a different fire risk than storing it in your home, or business. Or in a shed out back. Even a die hard like me is willing to admit there may be some risk if you've got a half million rounds of loaded ammunition stored directly under your bedroom, next to the furnace.
 
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