Man with 200 guns (and a flamethrower) pleads guilty

[HOUSTON RICK]

I am not sure what to think about this. I cannot tell what is really going on, what is he really "guilty" of? Lying on form 4473?

Man who had more than 200 guns at home to plead guilty

 

[Bald1]

This is based on his “alleged” illegal drug use?!?!?!?! If he’s a rotten apple and broke the law then throw the book at him. A lot of this seems based on allegations. Including that he was a bad husband/father. Whatever that means.

 

[bigwheelzip]

I am not sure what to think about this. I cannot tell what is really going on, what is he really "guilty" of? Lying on form 4473?

Following the embedded links you posted reveals this:

"The weapons were seized from the Burrillville home of Ronald Andruchuk, 37, after officers responded to reports of shots fired early Thursday.

U.S. Attorney Zachary Cunha’s office said shots were still being fired as officers arrived, with some bullets passing over their heads.

Andruchuk, who had been arrested in 2018 on drug charges, was found wearing a bulletproof vest and carrying four firearms and methamphetamine."

 

[bamabiker]

^^^ That will usually do it.

 

[jimmyj]

200 firearms and thousands rounds of ammo ?
He was just getting started. Underprivaged also.

 

[IronSkillet]

think this story came up way short on details and facts, the usual lack of any journalistic depth. See additional information from searching online.

The Red Dragon sold online for burning yard weeds, heck yes that thing could be a flame thrower!

 

[LVSteve]

Booze with cars, drugs with guns, it doesn’t take a PhD to figure out that these combinations are bad.

 

[Wyo]

It sounds like they got him into court on some sort of mental health, maybe “red flag” beef, then went federal on the gun charges. He’s pleading out as an addict who said he wasn’t one on the 4473 and for being an addict in possession of a firearm. Clearly, they looked real hard to come up with some charges to get his guns. His behavior also did not help. Possession of that many guns, by itself, isn’t a crime - at least not in most places. If it were a crime, half the people in this state would be locked up.

 

[BSA1]

Andruchuk, who had been arrested in 2018 on drug charges, was found wearing a bulletproof vest and carrying four firearms and methamphetamine."

Meth destroys the frontal lobe of the brain and affects their thought processes for the worse. The Feds were fishing as lying on the 4473 about using illegal drugs would be hard to prove without reliable witness(es).

 

[Beemerguy53]

Following the embedded links you posted reveals this:

"The weapons were seized from the Burrillville home of Ronald Andruchuk, 37, after officers responded to reports of shots fired early Thursday.

U.S. Attorney Zachary Cunha’s office said shots were still being fired as officers arrived, with some bullets passing over their heads.

Andruchuk, who had been arrested in 2018 on drug charges, was found wearing a bulletproof vest and carrying four firearms and methamphetamine."

At the risk of being accused of not knowing what "shall not be infringed" means, I'm going to suggest that this isn't sort of guy who should be trusted around guns...

 

[Racer X]

At the risk of being accused of not knowing what "shall not be infringed" means, I'm going to suggest that this isn't sort of guy who should be trusted around guns...

at some point he crossed the line from "good guy" to "can't be trusted". The monumental problem is, where is that line? We can usually tell pretty quickly in cases like this, but legally, where is that line?

 

[Muss Muggins]

Dude. He was shooting at the cops. Nobody is picking on him . . .

It sounds like they got him into court on some sort of mental health, maybe “red flag” beef, then went federal on the gun charges. He’s pleading out as an addict who said he wasn’t one on the 4473 and for being an addict in possession of a firearm. Clearly, they looked real hard to come up with some charges to get his guns. His behavior also did not help. Possession of that many guns, by itself, isn’t a crime - at least not in most places. If it were a crime, half the people in this state would be locked up.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Let’s start at “shooting at cops with meth in your pocket” and work our way back . . .

at some point he crossed the line from "good guy" to "can't be trusted". The monumental problem is, where is that line? We can usually tell pretty quickly in cases like this, but legally, where is that line?

 

[wood714]

All comes down to...if you break the law, you risk your right to ever "legally" own a firearm.

 

[boykinlp]

at some point he crossed the line from "good guy" to "can't be trusted". The monumental problem is, where is that line? We can usually tell pretty quickly in cases like this, but legally, where is that line?

There have been shootings where supposedly there were signs that were ignored by everyone. After the fact, we wonder how these signs weren't picked up. To me, this is someone picking up on those signs.
Larry

 

[Pisgah]

Cmon, guys and gals! Let's all go rally in support of this guy in front of the courthouse! I'll bring the meth!...

 

[pharmer]

The guy's cheese been sliding off his cracker for years. Escalating to where he is now. I always told the kids I worked with "If you don't keep control of your life somebody else will." Joe

 

[moosedog]

Without knowing all the facts, we can only speculate on why the ATF raid. I've actually found the ATF people I have met and worked with to be regular standup people.
The real travesty here, is how the media always slants the story to an anti-gun stance.
Look at the headline "Man who had more than 200 guns at home to plead guilty" Guilty to what? Owning 200 guns? That's what an average person is going to come away with after reading that header because most people won't actually read more than the heading and dig for facts.
It is written like that just for that propaganda value.

 

[Beemerguy53]

at some point he crossed the line from "good guy" to "can't be trusted". The monumental problem is, where is that line? We can usually tell pretty quickly in cases like this, but legally, where is that line?

Well, so far as I know, the legal line is drawn in the questions on a 4473. If your answer to any of those questions is "yes", you can't own a firearm...

 

[Racer X]

Well, so far as I know, the legal line is drawn in the questions on a 4473. If your answer to any of those questions is "yes", you can't own a firearm...

and as an aside. How many are currently serving their 5 years for lying on their 4473?