MANDATORY classes for ccw?

[USAF385]

No.

MAYBE if it's offered for free.

It's bad enough I have to pay $20 for 5 years for a God given right, re-affirmed by the Bill of Rights. Making people pay hundreds of dollars for a right? No way.

Why should I need to bow down to the government and take a course THEY determine is necessary? I've had over twenty years of firearms training. I received the small arms expert ribbon twice (rifle and handgun). Yet I would need to take a government mandated course on firearm safety and training?

BS

Should people train? Yes. Should they seek assistance if they feel it would be beneficial? Yes. Mandate it? No.

 

[rags]

I am not sure this mythical person exists who goes out, buys a gun, and starts carrying it. Most people who are unfamiliar with guns are afraid of them

This IS why I was pondering how to vote. The word Manditory word was killing me.

I've seen first hand, over the last year or two, many MANY first time buyers with absolutely no prior experience in shooting, come in and buy. Turn right around and sign up fow a CCW class. "Mostly" but not all either women, or couples that decided they wanted to start a new hobby.... and carry too.

I hate selling a gun to people that have never shot a gun in their life. They come in, pass the backround check, buy a gun and a box or 2 of ammo, then leave with nothing but one more question."Where'd you say that shooting range was again?" (I moonlight sometimes at a local shop)

I would rather do a 15 minute crash course before they leave. They would at least have 5 or 6 pointers to take with them.

 

[gregintenn]

I do not think training should be mandated by the government any more than I think a license should be necessary to "bear arms".

I do not believe in the premise of your question, therefore I don't know how to vote in the poll.

 

[timn8er]

Just curious:

People on this thread seem to be in favor of training, but not mandatory training. Again, just curious, don't pick up your flamethrower yet, But if the training isn't mandatory, how many people do you think will even bother with it? What kind of standards should & could be set for this non-mandatory training?

 

[MrJT]

Constitutional carry. Some states have it right.

I just checked the Bill if Rights and found out we only have freedom of speech if we take a public speaking course.

 

[Realzebub45]

Drivers license? Which amendment is that again? I'll leave it to the lawyers on the forum to explain why they should be licensed to practice.

I think you could certainly do something to incentivize people to get voluntary training, and set up a network and system to readily make available said training in every friggin county in the U.S. so as not to make it an undue burden to participate.

If you take the training at your expense, you get your CCW for free. And, a tax credit for the expense. Maybe even provide the training for free with the help of the NRA and volunteer trainers. And a tax credit. Surely if the libs feel that untrained CCW holders are wreaking havoc, this system would save tremendous cost in the millions of lives lost every year to this untrained menace.

Then, we should be mandated at 65 to take an expensive Skip Barber driving course before being reissued drivers licenses.

 

[jeepmcd]

I do like classes for CCW, but I would get behind school courses on firearm safety. Its to bad politicians are required to go though ethics and political classes in order to be an elected official.

 

[gunfan]

Mandatory, NO! This implies that "the right to keep and bear arms" is "conditional" and further erosion of our rights.

It should be taught in grade school and should be "optional" (because some stupid people don't really believe in the Bill Of Rights.)

Farg them!

Scott

 

[Bekeart]

Gun safety classes are now required to get a hunting license. Well except for us old geezers.

Gun safety is equally important for concealed carry.

If you oppose requirement of a class, would you agree the person should be REQUIRED to pass a gun safety knowledge and practices test.

"shall not be infringed" but we have minimum age limits ...

 

[MrJT]

Drivers license? Which amendment is that again?

Driving is a privilege, not a right.

The right to bare arms is in the bill of rights. Unconditional.

 

[ladder13]

Maybe some should pay a mandatory fee to vote.......ohh some states tried that already.

 

[7shooter]

John Lott has researched the effectiveness of classes for carry permits in "More Guns, Less Crime ".
"Lott examines the effects of training requirements on crime rate and accident rate. He finds that training requirements have very little effect on both crime rates and accident rates. "

I am still in favor of people taking classes even though I can't prove it really does any good.

 

[ladder13]

I do not think training should be mandated by the government any more than I think a license should be necessary to "bear arms".

I do not believe in the premise of your question, therefore I don't know how to vote in the poll.

Next time I'll let this guy do his own poll

http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge/314554-concealed-carry-2.html#post137202467

 

[radar1972]

Training? Yes.

Mandatory? Uh, NO.

 

[timn8er]

Next time I'll let this guy do his own poll

http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge/314554-concealed-carry-2.html#post137202467

That's just scary!

 

[chud333]

No, I personally don't want somebody who probably knows
less than myself about firearms running me thru some testing
and firing course just so i can obtain something that is my
right to have as a FREE, Law abiding, American Citizen.


Chuck

 

[ladder13]

That's just scary!

I was hoping to see him with his baby bonnet playing with his blinky but the poll is not cooperating.

 

[Wee Hooker]

Spending allot of time around a friends gun shop, I see ALLOT of people come in to buy a handgun with the intention of carrying. To be honest, some of these people scare me. They know little about guns and less about gun safety. Others, want to carry for the wrong reasons. ( Read: Can't wait to save a maiden or play James Bond.) Considering one of these hoopleheads might pull his hi cap forty in a crowded mall to thwart the robbery of a snow cone, I want to be sure that he has some basic instruction on firearms safety, liability and control before he pops a cap into an innocent bystander in the background.
Many, including myself ,will argue that CCW is a right. However, I believe with that right comes the responsibility to act appropriately and shoot straight and safely. Lives depend on it.

 

[DR505]

For non-LEO's, yes. For LEO's no...see HR218.

 

[mtgianni]

So even if you a LEO or active duty for military and retired you need mandatory training? This might come from a person that failed either of those career test you worked at but he is certified to train you? How about some sense.