Mazda to revive Wankel Rotary Engine...

Suzuki made one too
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I think I vaguely remember that one too. But it looks so much like the water buffalo I'm not sure.
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IIRC people got poor fuel mileage in a compact car, that's why it failed the first time.
 
So I’m on the interstate approaching Vegas from the South.
I’m in my Landcruiser which is not really a freeway cruiser.
Just as I almost get to town I get this small car on the shoulder.
A guy and two young girls standing up on the bank.
So I pull in.
I can see the left rear tire is mostly missing.
Blown out to shreds!
What’s going on?
He guy says - we just drive up from S Cal at high speed.
I was over 100MPH all the way! Often up to 120.
We almost made it!
Im thinking, you almost got killed!
The car was that small Mazda sedan with the Rotary.
I gave him a ride to a nearby gas station and went on home.
It was a hot day in Vegas!
 
The Mazda Wankel RX was my 69 BMW 2002 flying fishbowls nemesis.
I was kinda pleased when that guy told me it had died. My win lose ratio was about 50:50.
 
Thanks, BLUEDOT37 and oink for the memories!!

In '72/'73 I was the Parts Manager for a Suzuki Dealership in the suburbs of St. Louis, Mo. when the Suzuki RE-5 rotary was released to much fanfare!

Surprising, mostly because Suzuki had just turned the motorcycle world on its collective ear the year before with the Suzuki GT750 (affectionately known as the "Water Buffalo"), the first liquid cooled motorcycle (2 or 4 cycle) to be released from any major manufacturer. (Bet you didn't know that the buff was the only liquid cooled m/c engine that DID NOT have a water pump.)

As I recall, Suzuki had leased the rotary technology from NSU.
Suzuki had spent millions on computer design and production equipment to build this "Space Age Wonder", but the public reception was tepid at best.

With its "Buck Roger's Clock Radio" instrumentation, its unusual exhaust note, and only so-so performance, the RE-5 didn't do anything better than what had so recently come before.

These were heady days in the motorcycle business, with Honda conquering the longstanding vibration problem of twins and singles with their 4 cylinder bikes, Kawasaki ruling the drag strips with their triples and newly released Z-1, and Suzuki (always thinking outside the box) giving us a line of 2 stroke triples that had well mannered, flat torque curves like a 4 stroke.

And, of course, the "Water Buffalo"!
I had one of the first 1972 GT750 "Le Mans" (Suzuki's name for the buff) in the St. Louis area.

Yamaha, at that time, was still dominating the "off road" market.

The Suzuki RE-5 rotary was destined for failure.
Not because it was a rotary, but because it didn't do anything better than what was already on the market.

It wasn't faster than the Kaws, it wasn't smoother than the Hondas, and when forced to provide a cylinder displacement number (in CCs), Suzuki's claimed approx. 600 cc, placed it at a disadvantage in the "numbers game" against 750cc and 900cc bikes.

Even then, folks were concerned about fuel mileage, and the rotary was as thirsty as a 2 stroke.

Add to that, 3 separate oiling systems.
Crankcase oil; a metering pump and tank for rotor tip seal oil; and another tank and metering pump for chain lubrication (chains were a "weak link" ;) in those days, much more so than now).

The relatively few adventurous souls who bought them were met with problems stemming from as yet to be resolved technical issues and just plain unfamiliarity.

Probably the final nail in the coffin was Suzuki's requirement that any engine problem was to be resolved by the dealership techs removing the entire engine, shipping it back to Suzuki for analysis, and installing a crated replacement engine (as soon as one became available).

To stop the bleeding, Suzuki restyled the rotary with dial type gauges and less angular lines but alas, the damage had already been done and the RE-5 was cancelled and consigned to history.

John
 
I had 2004 RX8, with the rotary engine, and will say from 0-35 mph it couldn't get out of the way, BUT from 35 mph and up, it's like a bullet, just keep whining out, and doing 125 mph with plenty more power to unleash.
 
I tuned up a lot of RX 2s 3s and 4s back in the '70s.

Most shops turned them away so we saw a lot of them.

They were fun little cars to drive. You need to remember their big competition back then were Pintos and Vegas and they couldn't hold a candle to these things in a race.
 
My son blew the first motor on his RX7 biturbo. He bought a factory upgrade with improved seals and put a 4 stage turbo on it. I don't think it had a top speed, as the more air you put in it, the faster it went. He said that on stage 2, the Camero backed off at 140mph-and he still had pedal and more air available for the Mazda.
 
I had 2004 RX8, with the rotary engine, and will say from 0-35 mph it couldn't get out of the way, BUT from 35 mph and up, it's like a bullet, just keep whining out, and doing 125 mph with plenty more power to unleash.

Yup. My daughter’s is a 2004. It’s got the paddle shifters, which she doesn’t know how to use yet. But I do . . . :D
 
I had a 1984 RX7 GSL-SE that I bought new. It was silver with red leather and a real bullet to drive. I loved that car. I kept an eye on the oil consumption and kept it topped off with Castrol 20W-50 GTX back when you could buy it for $0.95 a quart. I would buy another if they had the bugs worked out of them.
 
I had a 1984 RX7 GSL-SE that I bought new. It was silver with red leather and a real bullet to drive.

I bought a 1983 GSL 5-speed that was black on black. Got it in 1990 for $1,200 at police seized vehicles auction. I got it so cheap because it wouldn't start and had to be pushed through the auction shed. Turned out to be a fusible link for the ignition system.

The only other thing wrong with it was the driver's door lock had been "punched" and the stereo stolen. It had been in impound for 3 or 4 years and only had 65k on the clock.

VERY light, with a good power-to-weight ratio. Not real quick off the line, but once it spooled up it was FAST and it handled great!

Put a little work and a wrecking yard stereo into it and gave it a good spit shine. Had bout $1,600 total into it. Drove it for about 6 months and sold it for $4,800.
 
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You Gung Ho Rotary folks need to start stacking your money!
Cause us folks who didn’t buy them last time ain’t buying them this time either!
 
When I was young, this was a rotary engine:

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Not a Wankel rotary engine though.:D

A friend of mine had a Wankel engine Hercules motorcycle. Got himself killed with it too.:(
 
My jaw still drops......

When I was young, this was a rotary engine:

YouTube

Not a Wankel rotary engine though.:D

A friend of mine had a Wankel engine Hercules motorcycle. Got himself killed with it too.:(

That's one of those things that still make my jaw drop just that it works without flying to pieces.
 

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