Midway welches on Backorder!

Same thread, even sounds like the same guys saying the same things lol.

I love when this type thread reappears - it makes me thankful beyond expression that I never had to work at retail :) :)
 
Same thread, even sounds like the same guys saying the same things lol.

I love when this type thread reappears - it makes me thankful beyond expression that I never had to work at retail :) :)

Yea, these companies really want to not ship product, and they really want to drive away customers. :rolleyes:

If they had access to the product, they would ship.

If they could please customers, they would.

Having run my own company, I feel sorry for these companies,
*Thousands of good orders filled pass in silence
*One bad order receives noise all over the internet

Does anyone think Midway should take grief because the price of 22LR has gone up and people are hoarding.

Not me,:confused:
 
I don’t order from Midway like I used to. Many of the things I need are either on backorder or they are not accepting backorders. Midway sure has changed over the past year-and-a-half. :(


Hmmm, Midway changed in the last year and a half? Everything was static in the entire shooting industry, but Midway changed?

Dastardly bunch of folks, ain't they? :confused:

Somehow the term "ridiculous" keeps running through my mind, but it's not a term that I like to use. :rolleyes:
 
My midway back order from 12/31/2013 just got kicked to 10/29/2014. Am I happy? No. I can cancel the order, wait, look elsewhere, BUT no matter how much I complain, I can not make them deliver what they do not have. Lets hope production starts to exceed sales and remember this when we vote. Be Safe,
 
I too have taken notice of Midway's declining customer service, lack of caring about their old customer base, rapidly rising prices, and switching pitchers in the middle of an inning!

Larry has gotten a bit to large for his "many pairs of boots" and I think the ONLY reason it hasn't come back to bite him yet is that the gun and ammo buying public has gotten a bit desperate for supplies. Basically I think he realizes this and is just making as much as he can as fast as he can with as many as he can before he looses the momentum.

On the other hand, Brownell's, Dillon, RCBS and Mid South stand out as the most honorable Companies in the business as far as I am concerned.
 
Like I said, bunch of whiners. Shall I call a waambulance? Let's not take into consideration that prices went up in the last year, that all these companies are competing for the same thing, that they have employees to pay, that some have more employees, that every person you deal with is crying me me me I want I want I want gimme gimme gimme. That they are on the schedule of the manufacturer not your. They can't deliver to you if the manufacturer won't deliver to them. That they won't sell if the price for them sharply and drastically changes.

Bad bad bad Larry. Bad! :(

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Midway is a business; Larry is a business man. It's as simple as that.

A sale takes a willing buyer and a willing seller at an agreed-upon price. Larry sells what stock he has, or can get. We can buy it at his price, or not.

It's quite simple: It's capitalism. I wouldn't have it any other way!

:D
 
Isn't there something in US Postal regulations or some federal law concerning back orders and the amount of time a seller can keep an item back ordered?

I seem to recall that there is something, and I would look into that as a cause before accusing the company of something insidious.

Gad, I hope not!!!
 
Hey I remember ordering a new Mustang Cobra in 1979 for I think $4400.00 I'm still waiting for it to be delivered. How dare they not honor their contract. I would take one of their 2014 Cobras for the same price. Just because they had price increases I shouldn't have to make up the difference.
 
What a bunch of whiners. Who in their right mind expects shipment of goods that aren't in stock? Furthermore, given the volume of places like Midway, who could think it reasonable to extend backorders past a freaken year? What good would it do to have a 2-year backorder?

Quit dealing with Midway so the rest of us can get faster service.
 
It's not about the price. It's about the fact that they cancelled the order without asking if any increase in price would be acceptable. I made a commitment to them by providing a method of payment.

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I tried to buy from them one time. It was a very unsatisfactory experience. I've never been back.

They indicated they had something in stock. They took & confirmed my order but never shipped. They canceled the order -- no reason given -- and never notified me.

They are NOT the only vendor out there. I'll give my business to the others.
 
I don't order as much from Midway as I use to. But, I've Always had good service from them.

A week or so before Christmas I noticed Midway had a B&C stock I had been wanting on sale. Ordered it and in 3 or 4 days it was on my door step.

It's that way with almost everything I've order from Midway. :)
 
Bottom line is it's a lot easier to just get on the notify list when the item gets in stock. Forget backorder. Sure you have to be fast, I have got the email but then the item is sold out already. They can only sell what they get.

If you can buy it somewhere else go for it, but chances are they will not have it either.

I never buy ammo, bullets, powder or primers from Midway they are usually a bit more expensive. Other stuff yes. They have excellent customer service and returns. No, I have not great love for Larry but he is still in business and runs a good company. He does a lot for the NRA both the company and his own personal money(like a Million dollars)

No way to compare Midway to CTD , Natchez or MidSouth.
I have ordered from them all. Natchez hits you with a S/h fee and trues to weigh the shipment down with a catalog. Delivery takes weeks. some Stets they will not deliver to. Their only advantage was they were a bit less than even Midway sale prices but that is no longer.

Carry On
 
I September of 2012 I purchased an order of 2000 reloading bullets and my credit card provided coverage until the end of March 2014. Yesterday I received an e-mail notice from Midway that the order was cancelled. I called customer service who admitted that they have a 360 day policy that they will not continue an order for more than 360 days and THAT THE POLICY IS NOT PUBLISHED ON THE NET. ...
It is now :). I just got a backorder notice with a reference to recent changes in their policy:
What is your Backorder Policy?

What is your Backorder Policy?

We do everything possible to get your backorders out as quickly as possible while minimizing shipping costs.

When you only have one product on backorder, we ship it out as soon as it’s received. When you backorder multiple products on a single invoice, we hold all of those products so they ship together. Once any backordered product has been in our warehouse for 90 days, we automatically ship that product to you, as well as any of your other backordered products in stock at that time. All backorders ship via the most economical shipping method possible.

Backorders open longer than 365 days will be cancelled.
 
In an earlier post, I said I thought I remembered there being some sort of postal rule related to backorders. It is actually a Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Rule.

This quote is from an article about Part 435 of the FTC rule on sales by phone and mail, which has also been held to apply to internet or eCommerce sales.

"Perhaps the thorniest and most overlooked areas of eCommerce are compliance with the varied regulatory burdens imposed by any number of governmental entities. One specific compliance issue, adherence to FTC (Federal Trade Commission) Rule 435 on back-orders can send even the most well-run eCommerce shop into paralyzing spasms of analysis paralysis as to how best adhere to both the spirit and letter and the law."

Back-orders and Rule 435 Compliance: Breaking the law! Breaking the Law! Breaking the Law! | Acquity Group Blog

There are provisions which talk about when cancellation by the seller is REQUIRED.

"When You Must Cancel an Order

You must cancel an order and provide a prompt refund when:

the customer exercises any option to cancel before you ship the merchandise;
the customer does not respond to your first notice of a definite revised shipment date of 30 days or less and you have not shipped the merchandise or received the customer’s consent to a further delay by the definite revised shipment date;
the customer does not respond to your notice of a definite revised shipment date of more than 30 days (or your notice that you are unable to provide a definite revised shipment date) and you have not shipped the merchandise within 30 days of the original shipment date;
the customer consents to a definite delay and you have not shipped or obtained the customer’s consent to any additional delay by the shipment time the customer consented to;
you have not shipped or provided the required delay or renewed option notices on time; or
you determine that you will never be able to ship the merchandise."

Business Guide to the FTC's Mail or Telephone Order Merchandise Rule | BCP Business Center

So, there are rules out there that businesses must comply with when conducting phone, mail or internet orders. I have no idea if those rules account for WHY this happened in THIS case, or even if the rules apply to this situation. But, running a business "ain't what it used to be."

EDIT: BECAUSE OF A SUBSEQUENT POST BY THE ORIGINAL POSTER, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I AM NOT SUGGESTING IN ANY WAY THAT MIDWAY VIOLATED THE LAW. I AM SUGGESTING THAT THE CANCELLATION OF THE BACK ORDER MAY HAVE OCCURRED SO THAT MIDWAY WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW. CAPICHE?
 
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Is it "welching" to admit that you can not get something and have no idea if you ever will get it?
 
Midway welches out

Buy from Midsouth....... I ordered a LOT in Jan. 2013; the order was delivered in Dec. at the original price AND with FREE SHIPPING because of the delay in delivering............... FORGET MIDWAY and go MIDSOUTH. J
 
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