Military and Police Model 1905 4th change

[cmdrcody]

I’m looking at a Military and Police Model 1905 4th change from the book I have
SN 5131xx.
About when would this have been made?
Some holster wear some rust under one of the grips.
Is $725 a good price?

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[gmborkovic]

Did you say "rust"? For $725! Move on.

 

[cmdrcody]

Small spots of rust not normally visible under the left-hand grip. It would be able to be removed easily and still not be visible.

 

[jimmyj]

the price is a "Tad" high.

 

[DCWilson]

From observable features, between 1922 and 1927. The seller would consider that a good price, but a buyer should top out $150-$200 lower.

It’s not a bad gun, just optimistically priced.

 

[glowe]

Shipped around 1925. Remember that the serial number means by 1925, the factory had built over a half-million 38 M&P revolver and would go on to build over 200,000 more before WWII. They are sturdy revolvers and likely most are still around so I personally would pay no more than $500 for a nice example like that one.

 

[AC Man]

That would be a mid 1920's you know what they say condition, condition, condition. I have a a 4" and 6" that are MINT. They are right there with any revolver in my collection.

 

[LtBob]

Mine has SN is 528XXX - my S&W letter says it was shipped DEC 5, 1925, so yours prior to that date most likely. (Also, letter says it shipped with silver medallions on grips, which it still wears.)

 

[AC Man]

I have never read or heard of a 1920's M&P with medallions on the grips. Now I have to go down that rabbit hole LOL my 2 from 1926 in 1927. Do not have medallions, or have I ever seen one from the 20s with medallions, very interesting.

 

[glowe]

Mid-1920s revolver never shipped with silver medallions unless it did not ship until 1930. Could you post a picture of the letter?

 

[LtBob]

Mid-1920s revolver never shipped with silver medallions unless it did not ship until 1930. Could you post a picture of the letter?

Exerpt from letter attached.

Mid-1920s revolver never shipped with silver medallions unless it did not ship until 1930. Could you post a picture of the letter?

 

[LtBob]

Mid-1920s revolver never shipped with silver medallions unless it did not ship until 1930. Could you post a picture of the letter?

Doing my research (realizing "take it with a grain of salt" if on Internet), I found the following: In 1917 (WWI), the medallions were eliminated, with round stock circles on top. After WWI, about 1920, the S&W flush chrome plated brass medallions began to return on wooden grips.

 

[LtBob]

I have never read or heard of a 1920's M&P with medallions on the grips. Now I have to go down that rabbit hole LOL my 2 from 1926 in 1927. Do not have medallions, or have I ever seen one from the 20s with medallions, very interesting.

Doing my research (realizing "take it with a grain of salt" if on Internet), I found the following: In 1917 (WWI), the medallions were eliminated, with round stock circles on top. After WWI, about 1920, the S&W flush chrome plated brass medallions began to return on wooden grips.

 

[glowe]

I was also interested in who authored the letter? Having been quite interested in this subject, I can state that the change can be most accurately stated as changing almost exactly as each decade arrived. During WWI, there were few commercial guns sold, and I have seen some with gold medallions that were shipped in 1918-1919. I never have seen a lettered teens gun with non-medallion convex stocks other than military guns. I am sure there was a transition period at each decade, using up old stocks and old inventory as the new stocks were introduced in 1920, but that did not last long.

 

[handejector]

Exerpt from letter attached.

Doing my research (realizing "take it with a grain of salt" if on Internet), I found the following: In 1917 (WWI), the medallions were eliminated, with round stock circles on top. After WWI, about 1920, the S&W flush chrome plated brass medallions began to return on wooden grips.

Your letter is WRONG. Request a new letter.
The data you quoted from "internet research" is WRONG. Request a new internet. (;>)

 

[LtBob]

I was also interested in who authored the letter? Having been quite interested in this subject, I can state that the change can be most accurately stated as changing almost exactly as each decade arrived. During WWI, there were few commercial guns sold, and I have seen some with gold medallions that were shipped in 1918-1919. I never have seen a lettered teens gun with non-medallion convex stocks other than military guns. I am sure there was a transition period at each decade, using up old stocks and old inventory as the new stocks were introduced in 1920, but that did not last long.

A recent official S&W historical letter - pic below. (Mr. Jinks doesn't do them any longer.)