Mod. 586 problem

[mrlee185]

My 586 is losing alot of gas from between cylinder and barrel
only when firing mag loads Wolf brand ammo did it the most.
38sp. is ok. While looking the gun over I can move the cylinder
back and forth enough that it is scratching the bottom of the
frame while closing it up. could this be the problem or is there
more to it. Should I try to find a gunsmith or send back to
factory I'm in Tampa and don't really know any smiths
I bought this second hand great gun so want to do it right
I'm new to this site so all suggests are apprecated
Gary

 

[TAC]

I would send it to S&W. They're the most experienced with what goes wrong and how to fix it. Many of these old revolvers have re-calls and upgrades that might only be performed by the factory. They'll go though the entire gun making sure everything is right. It's in their best interest to do so.

A random "gunsmith" is a **** shoot today when it comes to revolvers, unless you can find one that is highly recommended for revolvers.

 

[mrlee185]

Thanks TAC I guess that is what I will be doing who would
know better then S&W to fix there own guns.

 

[Alk8944]

My 586 is losing alot of gas from between cylinder and barrel
only when firing mag loads Wolf brand ammo did it the most.
38sp. is ok. While looking the gun over I can move the cylinder
back and forth enough that it is scratching the bottom of the
frame while closing it up. could this be the problem or is there
more to it. Should I try to find a gunsmith or send back to
factory I'm in Tampa and don't really know any smiths
I bought this second hand great gun so want to do it right
I'm new to this site so all suggests are apprecated
Gary

If what you mean by "bottom of the frame" is the lug on the side of the frame under the frame window, then that is completely normal. That is called the Frame Lug, and its purpose is to retain the cylinder when it is open. Instead, check the gun for end-shake with the cylinder closed. The cylinder should move end-wise no more than .002", preferably less. No measurement of end-play means anything if the cylinder is not in the closed position! Check the barrel-cylinder gap too. It should range between .004 and .010". It can actually go as high as .012", but preferably not. If either of these dimensions are over these limits, then it needs repair. If they do not exceed these figures there is nothing wrong with your revolver.

One thing you need to get used to is that gas leaks between the barrel and cylinder, it is the nature of revolvers and cannot be avoided. (Don't anyone dare mention Nagants!) The higher the pressure of the ammunition fired in the gun the more obvious the leakage is. At the pressure levels of the various Magnum cartridges the leakage through the "flash gap" is dangerous and can cause serious injury if you get too close when the gun is fired.

Oh, and while posting, this program wraps, you don't need to hit "enter" when you get to the end of a line, just keep typing and it takes care of itself!

 

[jepp2]

+1 on what ALK8944 said.

Have you checked out the F.A.Q. stickey at the top of the S&W Smithing section? In post 3 part way down the section titled Feeler Gauge Inspection steps you through how to check.

Realize that returning the revolver to S&W is going to cost you probably $60 to get it to them and $20+ for the return. Add to that the cost of inspection and time you don't have your handgun. And it might all be for no problems.

I am not encouraging you to perform repairs beyond what you are comfortable with. But routine checks are just part of maintaining a handgun. And this forum is an excellent resource to assist you.

 

[mrlee185]

Thanks guys this is all new to me I'll have to do alot of reading and I'm to embearest to say I don't even own a set of feeler gauge's any more. I called S&W yesterday there sending me the instructions for return it has a recall on it also so thats that I'll just have to pull out another gun for now thank goodness for Smith & Wesson

 

[clint_lnl]

Revolver checkout

heres a place with good info on checking out a Revolver

Revolver Checkout Procedure

 

[kbm6893]

Send it to Frank Smith at LSG Manufacturers. he's an authorized S&W repair center and he always covers the full repair, shipping included. he's never asked me if i was the original owner. 2 weeks and it's back to you. Email him a [email protected]. Give him the detail, he'll email you a fedex shipping label. Box it up and call fedex to pick it up. They'll return it right to your door.

LSG, Mfg|Gun Parts|Warranty|Gunsmithing

 

[IDPA]

Thanks for the discussions in this thread; the comments of Jim March were very informative and useful for me.