Model 10-6 in .357 Magnum

[Gakon]

I have one I will be selling soon. Was simply wondering if anyone knew of any recent sales so I could get an idea of value/condition. Last one I saw posted looked like it was unearthed with a metal detector and was a few years ago. Thanks for any and all assistance!

 

[Targets Guy]

Sorry no help here but welcome to the forum. Someone will be along soon with an answer. Have no fear.

 

[Gakon]

10-6 .357 Magnum

Thanks for the encouragement! Here are a couple pics that might help in determining condition...

 

[merl67]

The only one I could find on Gunbroker completed listings was offered at $599 but did not sell. It was not as nice as yours and no box so..

 

[lrrifleman]

Welcome from the Pine Barrens of southern New Jersey.

Might this be a mismark, or was the Model 10 offered as a 357 before the Model 13 was offered?

 

[Gakon]

According to the Jinks letter for my revolver, about 3000 10-6 chambered in .357 Magnum were produced between '72 &'74. They were sold primarily to LE agencies and when they were swapped out for newer models (ie 13-2) S&W reconditioned them and sold them to the private sector. In fact, the box mine came in is marked 13-2 even though the gun is stamped MDL 10-6.

 

[porterc1951]

I'd say you've got a good one there!

 

[murphydog]

Welcome! Hard to say...obviously more than a standard model 10-6 of the same condition and era (about $300-350), but apparent price resistance in the $600 range, so somewhere between the two. $450-500?

 

[Ross226]

Could the model 10-6 handle the .357 pressures? Or was the model 13 modified in some way? It seems to be a bit of a mystery.

 

[UncleEd]

The 10-6 .357 aped the other magnums of the day and had recessed chambers. As to its strength, I'd guess it was proofed much like a Model 19 of the day.

I'd put the price for a really clean one at $600.

 

[ddixie884]

I believe the Oklahoma Highway Patrol was one of the first to use these. I think it was the same as the later M-13.

 

[Texas Star]

I believe the Oklahoma Highway Patrol was one of the first to use these. I think it was the same as the later M-13.

In the immortal words of Gary Cooper, "Yup."

 

[Engine49guy]

The 10-6 chambered in .357 was the predecessor to the 13 series,
technically a "Model 13" (no dash) does not exist because when they were first introduced in 1974 they were marked "Model 13-1".

IMO Condition and originality are paramount in a collectable revolver

 

[BC38]

I have what I believe to be one of the very early 13-1s. Looking at it you can see that it was originally stamped 10-6 and was over-stamped 13-1. Not in as nice of condition as yours. Original grips, no box, a little more holster wear. I paid $490 for it FWIW.

 

[kbm6893]

The 10-6 in .357 came about as a request from the NY State Police. They used the Model 28 and wanted a lighter framed fixed sighted .357. But they qualified with .357 too so the K frame began to show its limits with exclusive .357 and they went to the 681.

I'm not aware of other agencies wanting K frame fixed sighted guns, but I'm sure there are a few. But I do know the success of the 10-6 in .357 was what spurred S&W to create the Model 13 for civilian sales.

I know I'd hold onto a 10-6 in .357, especially a nice one. They are worth more to me than a Model 13

 

[UncleEd]

I can't recall if the Model 13 had recessed chambers as did the 10-6 in .357.

But I do recall that the Model 13 was for a while an official FBI
firearm. Of course the Model 65 came along as well and that
also was a favorite for LEOs.

 

[BC38]

I can't recall if the Model 13 had recessed chambers as did the 10-6 in .357...

FWIW, Mine does....

 

[UncleEd]

BC38,
I'm thinking that when I did own a Model 13, it was post 1982 and therefore didn't have the recesses nor the pinned barrel.

 

[18DAI]

Many of the original 10-6 .357s went back to s&w and were overstamped 13-1. There were only 1200 NYSP 10-6 357s. So if yours is not overstamped and letters as having been delivered to the LE distributor the NYSP used for those revolvers (as mine does) AND you have the original box, Id say your 10-6 is worth more than $600.

FWIW, A dealer friend of mine had a 10-6 357 with the box and sold it to a collector for $900. This was back in 2008.

Were I you, and didn't want to keep it, Id put it up on Gunbroker. Good luck! Hope this helps! Regards 18DAI

 

[long colt frazier]

I bought this in 2010 and gave $405.00 no box or paper.
Mark

 

[jackvs1]

The model 10-6, barreled for 357 magnum was carried by the NYSP, we used them from 1972 - 1973. After that Smith & Wesson manufactured the Model 13-1 and shipped to the NYSP from 1974 - 1978. After that the NYSP orderd the infamous Model 520 but did not except shipmnt from Smith & Wesson. Right after that in 1979 is when the NYSP carried the Model 28-2; this revolver stamped NYSP was carried until 1981. We then switched to the Model 681, stainless steel fixed sight.

To the OP, I have a LNIB Model 10-6, chambered for 357, and I would not sell it. If I were to guess the price it would be anywhere from $650 - $750. BTW I retired from the NYSP in 2008.

 

[BC38]

Many of the original 10-6 .357s went back to s&w and were overstamped 13-1. There were only 1200 NYSP 10-6 357s. So if yours is not overstamped and letters as having been delivered to the LE distributor the NYSP used for those revolvers (as mine does) AND you have the original box, Id say your 10-6 is worth more than $600...

That is very interesting. So do you know what prompted their return to the mothership? Surely they didn't send them back just to have them re-stamped? Any idea how many got overstamped?

When I found this one I kinda thought it might be something a little special, but from what you're saying, maybe not...

 

[Texas Star]

The model 10-6, barreled for 357 magnum was carried by the NYSP, we used them from 1972 - 1973. After that Smith & Wesson manufactured the Model 13-1 and shipped to the NYSP from 1974 - 1978. After that the NYSP orderd the infamous Model 520 but did not except shipmnt from Smith & Wesson. Right after that in 1979 is when the NYSP carried the Model 28-2; this revolver stamped NYSP was carried until 1981. We then switched to the Model 681, stainless steel fixed sight.

To the OP, I have a LNIB Model 10-6, chambered for 357, and I would not sell it. If I were to guess the price it would be anywhere from $650 - $750. BTW I retired from the NYSP in 2008.

Do you know why the Model 520 was rejected? Clearly, they knew when ordering that Model 28 was available and had adjustable sights, but ordered the 520. Were all Model 520's sold on the commercial market?

I do feel that the stainless M-681 was the best choice of the guns mentioned.

I'm afraid to ask what 's used now. Might be a Glock.

 

[kbm6893]

The model 10-6, barreled for 357 magnum was carried by the NYSP, we used them from 1972 - 1973. After that Smith & Wesson manufactured the Model 13-1 and shipped to the NYSP from 1974 - 1978. After that the NYSP orderd the infamous Model 520 but did not except shipmnt from Smith & Wesson. Right after that in 1979 is when the NYSP carried the Model 28-2; this revolver stamped NYSP was carried until 1981. We then switched to the Model 681, stainless steel fixed sight.

To the OP, I have a LNIB Model 10-6, chambered for 357, and I would not sell it. If I were to guess the price it would be anywhere from $650 - $750. BTW I retired from the NYSP in 2008.

Really? So they went to the 28 after the K frame? I thought the k frame was brought in because the N frame was so big. I did not know you ever carried Model 13's. A friend of mine became a trooper in 1978 and he told me the k frames weren't holding up to .357 use so I figured they went to the 681.

What was used before the 10-6?

 

[jackvs1]

Really? So they went to the 28 after the K frame? I thought the k frame was brought in because the N frame was so big. I did not know you ever carried Model 13's. A friend of mine became a trooper in 1978 and he told me the k frames weren't holding up to .357 use so I figured they went to the 681.

What was used before the 10-6?

Before the Model 10-6 we carried Colts. The NYSP started in 1917 and the first revolver carried was a Colt 1917 New Service, 45, and it was stamped NYST on the backstrap. In 1954, it was a Colt Official Police, 6 inch and then in 1962 we switched to the Colt Official Police, 4 inch. Both were stamped NYST.

Yes, Troopers are now carrying Glocks. For me it was tough switching to a Glock in 1990 but overall it was a very accurate and dependable pistol.

 

[ladder13]

I'm afraid to ask what 's used now. Might be a Glock.

The Google is your friend

New York Troopers History

UniformTroopers
1917-1954-Colt 1917/New Service, .45LC, 5.5"bbl, blue NYST on back strap, Troop letter and 1 to 3 digit property number on butt (both rollmarks done @ colt
1954-1962-Colt Official Police, .38Special, 6"bbl, blue NYST on back strap, Troop letter and 1 to 3 digit property number on butt
196X-19XX Smith and Wesson Model K-38 Masterpiece, .38special, 6"bbl, blue - pistol team only
1962-1972-Colt Official Police, .38Special, 4"bbl, blue NYST on back strap - still in service through 1974
1972-1973-Smith and Wesson Model 10-6, .357mag, 4"bbl, blue -no marking
1974-1978-Smith and Wesson Model 13-1, .357mag, 4"bbl, blue - no marking
1979-Smith and Wesson Model 520, .357mag, 4"bbl, blue - None - never issued, contract cancelled, 3110 made, SNs: N557750- N560860
1979-1981-Smith and Wesson Model 28-2, .357mag, 4"bbl, blue- NYSP left side of frame below cylinder
1981-1990-Smith and Wesson Model 681, .357mag, 4"bbl, stainless -NYSP left side of frame below cylinder
1990-2008-Glock Model 17, 9mm, black -None - issued models destroyed and replaced by model 37 circa 2008
2008-present-Glock Model 37, .45GAP, black-None - current issue - to be destroyed when replacement weapon selected

 

[jackvs1]

Do you know why the Model 520 was rejected? Clearly, they knew when ordering that Model 28 was available and had adjustable sights, but ordered the 520. Were all Model 520's sold on the commercial market?

I do feel that the stainless M-681 was the best choice of the guns mentioned.

I'm afraid to ask what 's used now. Might be a Glock.

Here is a thread on the Model 520, see my post 26. http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-re...357-magnum-military-police.html#post139007006

Yes Troopers today carry Glocks. In 1990 we transitioned from the Model 681 to a Glock Model 17. I believe they are now carrying a Glock Model 37. I was reluctant, not that I had a choice, to switch from the Mod 681, but the Glock was very accurate and dependable.

 

[kbm6893]

Here is a thread on the Model 520, see my post 26. http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-re...357-magnum-military-police.html#post139007006

Yes Troopers today carry Glocks. In 1990 we transitioned from the Model 681 to a Glock Model 17. I believe they are now carrying a Glock Model 37. I was reluctant, not that I had a choice, to switch from the Mod 681, but the Glock was very accurate and dependable.

So did they find the k frame .357 wasn't up to a steady diet of .357, which prompted the switch to the 28? Then when the L frame came along it was a good compromise between the big N frame and the K frame? My friend told me he qualified with .357 ammo and he doesn't recall shooting .38's out of his K frame.

He came on to the troopers in 1978 and swears he carried a 10-6, but he could be mistaken I guess. He thought the 28 was a great gun but huge and he loved the 681. He left the troopers in 1983 to join the FBI and loved his Model 13 he was issued there, but most agents loaded .38 ammo in them. He had 3 .38 rounds followed by 3 .357 rounds.

 

[Gakon]

Thanks for all the info, gentlemen! Glad to hear that the condition of mine is not as bad as I thought. Never had a service piece before, so to me it looks a lot worse than my other handguns, lol. Also nice to know it should do better than $600 with the box and letter. Now to find a reputable auction site!

 

[Chuter]

Another 10-6 in .357

Just picking up on your thread. My 10-6 in .357 also has no prefix letter and is only five digits 42178 (you can see it in the pics). Any additional history would be great. Thinking of sending in for a letter from S&W too.