Model 10 questions

[BAM1933]

I am looking a publication that will help me identify which ones were issued to the military (specfically the Army). If anyone know of any good reference publications please let me know.

I am also looking to puchase a military issue model 10 that would have been in use during my service period (1986-1994).

Any information will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Retired W4]

For earlier issue guns, U.S. Handguns of World War II by Charles W. Pate.

 

[Sevens]

Lots of folks can help with the old old one. For an '86 to '94, I can say that a 10-10 will definitely fit the bill for the later years, not sure if a 10-9 was in the mix on the 1986 side. A 10-10 is going to be a round butt frame, at least in my experience.

The 10-10 is also, I believe, that last engineering change before the introduction of the frame mount firing pin and the updated and angled MIM cylinder release which are present on the 10-11.

 

[Retired W4]

The last time I qualified was at Dobbins JRB in the late 1990's. They were a bunch of old 10-5's. After shooting and turning them in to HHC arms room they all looked like Vietnam leftovers. The enlisted guys were shooting M-16's.

The Beretta M-9 was adopted in 1985. I was never issued one though.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

The Beretta M-9 was adopted in 1985. I was never issued one though.

Just another way your career was blessed!

Ivan

 

[Retired W4]

Just another way your career was blessed!

Ivan

That's right, but my son had to carry one in the A-10. Oh well.

 

[Slufstuff]

Unfortunately, there is no single reference published that covers the post WW2 revolvers of the various military services. That is my primary collecting area. Most of my information has been gathered from various magazine articles, on-line forum posts, and similar sources gathered over the years. A couple of guys on this forum specialize in the US military revolvers. If you have specific questions, this is as good a place as any to ask them.

As mentioned above, I would pick up a copy of Charles W. Pate's book. Many of the WW2 handguns served many years after the end of the war in all services. I would love to see a volume 2 of this book covering post-war secondary US handguns in the same detail.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

That's right, but my son had to carry one in the A-10. Oh well.

He's wearing an A-10 and regulations require he carry an M-9. That old definition of "Military Intelligence" comes to mind.

Ivan

 

[Birdhunter6]

A friend who was a marine pilot in Desert Storm told me he qualified with a S&W .38 special. He wasn't sure of model but believed it had fixed sights, indicating an M10.

He said he never flew with it over the Iraqi Desert, believing that an extra canteen full of water would be a better use of limited weight & space.

 

[BAM1933]

I flew an OH-58 in Desert Storm and carried one in a shoulder holster. Ours were older models of what I believe to be an M10 (not sure of variation). As I look to purchase an M10, I want to make sure it was a military service issued pistol and not a civilan version. I am not as concerned with which variation it is.

 

[MajorD]

Even as late as desert storm, some units were still issuing victory models from WWII, and there were a number of variations of the post WWII model ten in service, both round and square butt, generally 1960's era model 10-5. All with standard weight tapered barrels. The victories would of had lanyard rings on the butt, while the
After model 10-5 did not. The model 10-5's mostly had a simple U.S. stamped on the back strap to denote military property, and they are VERY hard to find. Victories are a lot easier

 

[Retired W4]

I flew an OH-58 in Desert Storm and carried one in a shoulder holster. Ours were older models of what I believe to be an M10 (not sure of variation). As I look to purchase an M10, I want to make sure it was a military service issued pistol and not a civilan version. I am not as concerned with which variation it is.

Just curious on the Kiowa you flew, C or D? I taught the Aero-Scout course in the A/C models in the 1980's.

I think most of the M-10s in Army aviation were marked on the grip frame back strap. Beware of fakes and good luck. BTW, in 1969 I was issued a Victory model and in 1970 a model 10 in Vietnam.

M-9, cross draw in vest. Photo courtesy of my son, 75th Fighter Squadron.

 

[BAM1933]

I flew C models. I was an Aero-Scout 93B. Attend the school May 90. What part of the course did you teach?

Following school I was deployed to Desert Storm in Dec 90-May 91.

 

[Retired W4]

I flew C models. I was an Aero-Scout 93B. Attend the school May 90. What part of the course did you teach?

Following school I was deployed to Desert Storm in Dec 90-May 91.

In the early 1980's DA decided all graduates of the Aero-Scout pilot course must be NVG qualified so The Bat Flight was formed and all we did was fly NH/NVG training student pilots. You might have flown with some of my students.

My last MOS was 155FH.