Model 14 .357 or .358 Diameter

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Haven't posted in a while since was linked up with the wonderful 2.7 Bullseye and the HBWC. I would like to buy some coated wadcutters but they list .357 "match" and .358. My model 14 has 8 3/8 barrel and is a stock unmodified revolver. Which diameter is it meant for ? Thank..
 
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Doug,
If you have pin gauges, or know someone who does, measure the cylinder throats and pick the size closest to the throat size.
George
 
This is going to vary from gun to gun. Sometimes it won't make any difference, particularly with a gun that doesn't shoot all that well anyway. With other guns, a thousandth of an inch in bullet diameter can make a measurable difference in accuracy and freedom from bore leading.

The advice to try bullets through the chamber throats to check for fit is generally good advice, but there are always exceptions. If a bullet will not pass through a throat without pounding it through, it's too big.

At a minimum, I'd try the largest bullet that will barely slip through the throat with some resistance and then one slightly smaller. This will probably be .358" and .357" or somewhere in between. Load up some ammo and shoot at least several benchrested groups at 25 yards, or even 50 if your eyes and shooting skills are better than average.

You'll quickly find the best bullet diameter for your revolver. Don't waste your time shooting at distances under 25 yards where everything is accurate.

A micrometer is a big help in doing all this. A caliper isn't accurate enough for this sort of precision. I'd get sample of at least several bullets, trying them for chamber throat fit and measuring them. You may be surprised at the real diameter of some bullets.
 
The most important aspect of shooting lead (coated, or nekkid) is knowing your gun. Measure (pin/plug gauges or slug) the cylinder throats and use bullets of the same diameter. Slug the barrel to make sure the cylinder throats are larger than the groove diameter...
 
I have a variety of Colt and S&W revolvers. I can shoot .358" in all of them, but for best accuracy, several require a smaller diameter bullet.
 
Coated lead bullets........

That's the key right there. They easily swage down in the forcing cone (all else being right with the chambers and all). If I were using a jacketed bullet it would e .357" dia.
 
I'd go .358 first.

Yes, you should size to the throat. But if the throat is excessively tight that won't help you much. To my thinking, you should just open all throats to .358 if you're a lead bullet fan. This is neither difficult nor expensive whether you do it yourself or farm it out.

Most throats on modern revolvers I've seen are .3575 by my pin gauges. This is probably a good compromise for lead and jacketed bullets. One Model 14 I have (late 60's vintage) had .355-.356 throats when I got it. This is probably why it was shot very little as I doubt that would have shot well. I didn't even try. I opened the throats to .358. Shoots great.

I have a Taurus .38 revolver that has .361 throats. I can't get a bullet that big short of a custom over-side mold, or by sizing down an underweight 9mm Makarov bullet. There's really no good answer for that problem considering it's an inexpensive revolver. The gun is still minute-of-bad-guy so it's not useless by any means. Just not very interesting.

So I'd go .358 and see how it shoots.
 
The most important aspect of shooting lead (coated, or nekkid) is knowing your gun. Measure (pin/plug gauges or slug) the cylinder throats and use bullets of the same diameter. Slug the barrel to make sure the cylinder throats are larger than the groove diameter...
This is the answer I would give also. I always used a wood dowel and tapped a LCSWC bullet through the barrel and measured the bullet. I sized & lubed .357" for my Model 27-2 with 8 3/8" barrel when casting my own bullets and sizing them.
 
Don't over think this, it's not brain surgery. Just buy the .358" bullets and shoot them. I'm guessing the HBWC bullets you're now shooting are .358" too.
 
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