Model 14 in need of help...

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Quick background, bought a Model 14 Target Masterpiece off of Gunbroker for my better half to shoot (so I can shoot mine again :D). Suffice to say it has some issues.... I believe the seller misrepresented the item and I am dealing with that.

Anyway, I have no intentions of letting this poor thing stay in the state its in. I've been working on K frames for a bit but I'd like to go over the list of planned work as a sanity check. If y'all have suggestions as to how I can do a higher quality job, please let me know!

1. The rear sight was chopped to be shorter and it was widened. Cuts were done poorly and none are straight.

Fix: Replace rear sight blade and windage screw. Does anyone know the correct height rear sight blade for a 14-4?

2. The front sight had a dot added to it. The dot was added with a metal punch and nail polish. It is off center and looks hideous. One side of the sight is slightly peened.

The partridge front sight is a one piece unit, the blade cannot be removed separately. I can see the pin holding the ramp and blade in but it has been ground flush with the barrel and blued (beautiful attention to detail). I will eventually send this gun back to Smith and Wesson to be re-blued. Will they be able to replace the front sight as well for me? I don't feel comfortable that I could do a good job of trying to remove that pin and feel it best left to S&W if they can do it.

I wont be able to afford this work for a while. I was thinking, in the mean time, of milling the face of the sight down deep enough to remove the dot, making sure the whole thing is flat, and then cold bluing. Thoughts?

3. The hammer block is missing. Lost or removed, who knows.

Replace

4. The double action is completely non functional.

I've got the gun totally apart. Bubba was kind enough to not take a file to the trigger or hammer. The original strain screw was discarded, and a new screw was used in its place. From test firing, the gun was set to barely be reliable in single action. New strain screw and this should be all fixed.

5. The nose of the thumb latch was cut off.

A previous owner wanted a larger thumb latch and poorly attempted to fit an N-Frame latch to a K-Frame gun. When it didn't fit, get the dremel! It binds up and leaves a section of the bolt exposed which has accumulated a good bit of filth. Replace the thumb latch with a proper one.

6. The previous owner poorly attempted to polish the frame behind the rebound slide. This one is just bad. Its pretty clear they were trying to file off the milling marks, but couldn't work the file in to actually cover the whole area he was trying to get at. The kicker? The file marks are coarser than the milling marks that were there originally.

Fix : Ill polish this up correctly and finish with a rouge cloth. I know no one sees this, but its so poorly done. I take pride in my work and I don't want that looming under the hood.


That about covers it. Mostly easy fixes, but very frustrating to see someone would do such a half *** lazy job on a target masterpiece. If y'all have any suggestions about how I could do a better job or answer to my couple of questions I'd really appreciate it. Thanks for reading!
 
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I may be way off, but some 14's were single action only.
Would sure go back on the seller on that 1! Never had a G.B. transaction that was an issue like that. Guess I have been lucky. Keep us posted. Bob
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I may be way off, but some 14's were single action only.
Would sure go back on the seller on that 1! Never had a G.B. transaction that was an issue like that. Guess I have been lucky. Keep us posted. Bob
Welcome to the FORUM!

I have encountered these. They usually come out of Europe with less permissive gun laws. This one though has a double action capability, the "trigger job" if you can call it that is just very poorly done.
 
The front sight on your 14 is no longer made, haven't for many years. Best bets: 1. Do what you have suggested. 2. Mill off the blade and cut the base for a replacement Patridge blade. 3. Find a Model 14 barrel of close vintage and use the sight and base for your revolver.

KAC
 
The front sight on your 14 is no longer made, haven't for many years. Best bets: 1. Do what you have suggested. 2. Mill off the blade and cut the base for a replacement Patridge blade. 3. Find a Model 14 barrel of close vintage and use the sight and base for your revolver.

KAC
Or, be on the look out for a reasonable, clean used barrel. Bob
 
Do some arithmetic and try to figure out if the original cost of the gun plus the cost of rebluing plus the cost of the repairs you mention would've bought you a far better gun than the one you'll end up with after the work is done.

Taking a gun you don't love and turning it into a gun you do love by spending lots of money often doesn't work out. If the gun's disappointing attributes corresponded with a low price paid for it, it might make more sense to sell the gun at little or no loss, then go shopping for what you really want.

If you spent more than you feel you should have, it may make more sense doing just the functional repairs and holding onto the gun until its value corresponds to what you paid, which is very likely to happen, based on my experience. Then you can sell the gun or keep it as you wish. Just my opinion. Best wishes.
 
Jim,

Your point is well taken, and well timed with an update to the story.

The seller agreed to furnish the difference for the spare parts needed to make the repairs. So no additional financial burden there. Labor is my own and working on guns is a hobby of mine. Its valuable to me to have the project and restore the old gun. It wasn't terribly expensive in the first place either

The overall finish on the revolver as fine, it doesn't need the re-blue. More of a nicety.

I don't see it as a pile of attributes I don't like. It shoots like a house on fire, just needs a little love. I see it as a project and an opportunity to work on the revolvers I love. So overall I'm happy with the situation and how it turned out.
 
Sounds like an enjoyable project but you'd better do a good job if you expect to get your other 14 back.
 
Me? I'd put a set of "Hello Kitty" grips on it, try to pawn it off on the wife and get my original 14 back. -S2

Hello Kitty grips? Where can I get several sets of them??? Would love to once again return to yesteryear and actually be able to fire the "absconded with" Model 10, Model 15, Model 17,
etc., et al, ad infinitum...without waiting for the "absconders" (all females for some reason in my house).

I am allowed to clean them before returning to safe so I guess all isn't lost!:D
 

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I let my wife "try out" a Model 14 right after I acquired it several years ago. It was essentially about new in the box at that time. I haven't seen it since!
Jim
 
The pink grips are a useful tool for the married collector. I can't tell you how many J-frames were welcomed into the fold because they sported pink grips the first time my wife saw the gun. :)
 

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