Model 14 with 4-inch barrel

[Engine49guy]

......The third iteration I'm aware of were the 14-2 Dayton guns . . . Most are spread out in the K624XXX to K660XXX s/n range....Russ

Russ, I see you said "Most", I have a 4" Model 14-2' just under that range at K623,400 FYI.... Any idea on production numbers of these guns?

On a side note there are more 4" Model 14's out there but marked as Model 15-6 and 15-7's.
(Model marked 15-7 below)

6" "Heavy" Masterpiece frame/barrel marked as Model 15-6 below

 

[linde]

Russ, I see you said "Most", I have a 4" Model 14-2' just under that range at K623,400 FYI.... Any idea on production numbers of these guns?

On a side note there are more 4" Model 14's out there but marked as Model 15-6 and 15-7's.

You are absolutely correct, the 14-2s for Dayton Gun Hq were in the K623XXX & K624XXX range and then again in the K660XXX & 661XXX range. Total quantities are estimated to be 2,000.

Your Model 15s are outstanding examples of 4" and 6" heavy barrels produced during the period 1982 to 1991 while the Model 14 was discontinued. I was aware these were produced in 15-5 and 15-6 examples but yours is the first 15-7 example I've heard of.

The 14-2 Dayton guns were essentially a Model 10 heavy barrel with target sights. The 4" Model 14-3s that I've seen appear to be 6" Model 14 barrels cut down by the factory. The 4" heavy Model 15s, however, have the front sight forged with the barrel indicating to me they were made to be 4".

Russ

 

[redhawk444]

I happen to have a 14-2 in 4" version that has grips rounded at the bottom. I was told that this was a Dayton gun. Serial number is K660701. Anybody know when it was made?

 

[linde]

I happen to have a 14-2 in 4" version that has grips rounded at the bottom. I was told that this was a Dayton gun. Serial number is K660701. Anybody know when it was made?

Based on the serial number and muzzle profile I agree you have one of the Dayton guns. The modified magnas (also know as PC magnas) are correct and I believe you will find them numbered to the gun on the inside of the right panel.

My K660813 shipped in January 1967 and I would suspect yours would be the same or very close.

You have an excellent example . . . not all of them survived quite as well. Very nice!

Russ

 

[Engine49guy]

...... I was aware these were produced in 15-5 and 15-6 examples but yours is the first 15-7 example I've heard of.
Russ

Russ those 15's were pics I saved of interesting guns in different parts of the forum and may have both been 15-6's.

My earlier 14-2 (pictured below middle with 15-1 and 19-3) also has PC Magnas but with diamonds.
Apparently the order came down to drop the diamonds by the second batch.

 

[linde]

Russ those 15's were pics I saved of interesting guns in different parts of the forum and may have both been 15-6's.

My earlier 14-2 also has PC Magnas but with diamonds.
Apparently the order came down to drop the diamonds by the second batch.

You've got me curious now on the 15-7. Since it came out in 1994, well after the newly designed Model 14s were introduced in 1991, I assumed they dropped the heavy barrel version . . . but then I don't know that I've ever seen a 15-7 so don't know for sure.

You are right on the PC magnas on the 14-2 Dayton guns. My August 1965 shipped (K624XXX) has diamond PC magnas but the one shipped in January 1967 (K660XXX) is non-diamond.

Very nice trio of 4" Masterpieces . . . and great comparison pictures. Thanks for sharing,

Russ

 

[tomjak2000]

Here's a bad photo of the 14-1 4" nickel gun I bought yesterday.

I'll shoot it Sat. and get take some more photos if you like.

 

[Engine49guy]

Its tough to see but is that front site Pinned on and blued?
If it is an original Nickel gun the jeweled hammer and trigger and grips are easy enough to replace .

More pics please

 

[bgrafsr]

Here is my 14-2, # K623622, thanks to Jebus35745.

 

[lship]

Model 14 4"

I have one of the KCPD weapons. SN# K37XXXX. I was issued the weapon in 1965 and was allowed to buy it when the Department went to the Stainless fixed sight model. I had S&W research the SN# and their research indicated that there was only 25 produced.

 

[Mickey D]

Great thread! Lots of knowledge being shared. Thanks

 

[linde]

I have one of the KCPD weapons. SN# K37XXXX. I was issued the weapon in 1965 and was allowed to buy it when the Department went to the Stainless fixed sight model. I had S&W research the SN# and their research indicated that there was only 25 produced.

The 4" KCPD Model 14s are very special guns . . . congratulations on retiring yours.

With a serial number of K37XXXX it would have shipped circa 1959 so it will likely be Model 14 marked. It's very possible that there were only 25 produced in that batch, but there was an earlier batch of 375 units of non-model marked 4" Heavy barrels that shipped to the KCPD in April 1957. I am also aware of a later batch of 4" heavy Model 14-3s that were purchased by the KCPD. And there could very well have been others.

If you would, please send me a PM with the complete serial number and I will start keeping track of others in the 1959 special run of 4" 14s.

Thanks for sharing,

Russ

 

[Drewfus]

New to the forum, but I joined because of a search I am doing for info about a 4 inch Model 14 I just picked up yesterday. Serial is K404xxx, no special markings at all. The grips are wrong and so is the rear sight. Wondering if a Jinks letter would be worth it.

 

[linde]

New to the forum, but I joined because of a search I am doing for info about a 4 inch Model 14 I just picked up yesterday. Serial is K404xxx, no special markings at all. The grips are wrong and so is the rear sight. Wondering if a Jinks letter would be worth it.

Welcome to the forum . . . good folks with lots of knowledge here.

Your 4" Model 14 appears to be factory original. A letter would confirm if it is an original 4" and tell you when and where it shipped. It's hard to tell from the serial number but it could have shipped to a federal agency such as the Border Patrol (see posts 9 thru 15)

As discussed in earlier posts, there were also several batches of 4" Model 14s that were shipped to various S&W Distributors . . . perhaps to test the market for a heavy barrel 4". Most of these were equipped with the Baughman ramp front sight like yours for holster carry.

The rear sight on yours appears to be the normal micrometer click rear sight used on post-war K-frame target revolvers such as the Model 14.

Russ

 

[Drewfus]

I think the rear sight is off an N frame. It, hangs off the back too far, has a white outline blade, and is darker than the rest of the gun. EZ fix.