Model 39-2 Pros and Cons?

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A local shop has some nice looking 39-2's. Other than being blued single-stacks, is there anything to look out for in the 39-2? Are the trigger actions usually good?

I tried to search the forum, but I think "39-2" is too short or an invalid search term.

Thanks
 
I have both a 39-2 and a 639. The 39-2 seems to shoot better, at least for me. I've extensively fired the Model 59, and the 39 shoots much better, i.e.: much tighter groups. The curved back strap just seems to fit my hand better.

One thing to look for is a pin punch mark on the front of the extractor. If it has the pin punch, then the gun has been upgraded with the improved parts that were made for both the 39 and 59 in 1978. That will include the extractor, extractor spring, guiderod and barrel bushing. The 59 upgrade also included new style magazine followers.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
An exquisite firearm from yesteryear. I have three and they ALL shoot VERY well. The ergonomics are fabulous, they carry very well, are extremely reliable, mine feed everything and is a joy to shoot....I would suggest getting one immediately. You will NOT regret this purchase ever!
Randy
 
Can't go wrong with the 39 family. The best shooter I've ever owned, a Model 639. The only "con" is weight and mag capacity with the 39. Neither an issue with me.
 
I have both a 39-2 and a 639. The 39-2 seems to shoot better, at least for me. I've extensively fired the Model 59, and the 39 shoots much better, i.e.: much tighter groups. The curved back strap just seems to fit my hand better.

One thing to look for is a pin punch mark on the front of the extractor. If it has the pin punch, then the gun has been upgraded with the improved parts that were made for both the 39 and 59 in 1978. That will include the extractor, extractor spring, guiderod and barrel bushing. The 59 upgrade also included new style magazine followers.

Hope this helps.

Fred
I am new to all of this and read your post. What is a extractor? Where would i find the "punch". I've have the 39-2. I have it for about 20 yrs. What would one cost now.

Thanks,

bruce
 
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The extractor is the little claw looking thing on the right side of the slide opening that grips the rim of the case and pulls it out of the chamber, or extracts it. The pin punch mark will be on the portion of the extractor that faces the front sight. If there isn't a punch mark there, then your gun has the older style extractor. Some guns work just fine with the original extractor, so if your gun is working, don't worry about it.

They don't make the Model 39-2 anymore, so the going price is whatever they are selling for. I won't sell mine. It was a Santa Barbara PD (Calif.) turn-in gun that was handpicked for me.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
Frankly, I have to warn you.

Buying one of these and shooting it will probably trigger a conscious yearning to own more. They can be addictive, but it is an addiction for which no cure is needed.

They last a long-long time. Your gransons will probably be on retirement before it wears out.

Ammo for one of these is very expensive. Expensive because it is so much fun to shoot.

It will trigger an envy response from other shooters when they shoot yours. Keep a close eye on it. Do not let your favorite son in law talk you out of it. Buy one for him too. Get one for your wife while you are at it. While you are at it, buy a couple for spares in case of hard times/good times.
 
The S&W 39 is a favorite of mine and I thought this thread needed a picture, so I'll roll mine out.
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Keith
 
Keith, Great wood on your 39-2! Where did you get those?


Tinfinger - what was the asking price?

I'll agree that the 39-2 is a tremendous gun. Almost all of them are as reliable as the sunrise. The arched backstrap aids in good shooting, better than the razorbacked 59 series and "value" series guns.


Jaysouth is absolutely correct. I bought one in '73 and it's one of my favorite autos. In fact, I like 'em so much...
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Yup... I own four of 'em. All minty and all good shooters. The 8+1 mag capacity doesn't bother me (CA limits us to 10 rds anyhow) since I don't plan on facing down large groups with it.

Trigger - The trigger takes getting used to. Some are a little grittier than others. The transition between DA and SA (1st & 2nd shots) takes a little practice. But generally the triggers are good. Not as good as a tuned revolver or a match 1911, of course.

relaytoad - If you look at Keith's photo above, the extractor is the little arm or bar in the side of the slide. It runs back into the gripping grooves of the slide.
 
If you plan on using it as a CCW, life saving firearm, make absolutely certain the one you acquire has the 1978 upgrades. Both the early 39's and especially the 59's have reliability problems in the first series.

Before I anger those who own them, I would like to add they remain wonderful, classic autos with ground breaking tech for the time. The 39/52 has the finest and most comfortable handling characteristics of any of the Smith autos, IMO.
 
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Reloader Fred covered the upgrades nicely in his response on page one. Extractor, spring, guide rod and barrel bushing. My problem, as well as the roughly 150 other members of my So Cal Sheriff's office, was with the 59 (the 39 had the identical parts). They were ordered directly thru the department from Smith in 1974. Reliability was a major issue from the onset. My particular weapon began to gouge the guide rod after only a few magazines. As things worsened, the friction would cause the slide to short cycle. Hot rounds would function, but added to the damage. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but as I recall (from thirty plus years ago) the initial issue, mine included, had an alloy aluminum guide rod and the fix was a steel one? Others had extractor problems, leaving the spent round in the chamber. The gun was very new then and Smith didn't have any fixes yet. Hence, most if not all were sold, as I did mine. Reliability was first and foremost for us in any firearm, on or off duty. While I never owned one again, I have heard the fixes were good enough to make the gun far more reliable. The second generation was prompted, I believe, by the poor rep of the first series.

There are other mitigating factors in the first generation that were not necessarily the fault of the weapon. Ammunition at the time was not nearly of the quality of today's offerings. Anyone remember High Vel (?), by Lee Jurras? He manufactured the hottest ammo available but quality control finished his run. Also, some of it was far to hot for the guns at the time. Pressures were far beyond today's standards and subsequently hard on guns. I believe while the 39/59 were a great start, they needed and received improvement over time, as did the ammunition.
 
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First of all, does anyone have a photo of a model 39-2 that shows the punch mark on the extractor?

I'll play skeptic here only because in over 30 years of owning several specimens and handling at least a hundred others, I have yet to see a pumchmark on or near the extractor.

Yes, I would notice. Any 39 I handle has its extractor inspected. A check for type (wide/long original style or short/narrow -2 style) along with a careful eyeballing for any cracks or deformity. In that 30 years, I have not seen a single 39-2 with a punch mark.

In my opinion, any 39-2 in original condition is likely to be 100% reliable out of the box with proper cleaning & lubrication.

The original 39 series (previous to the 39-2) did have some extractor and feed issues, however the -2 models are quite robust from all examples I've used.

Magazine followers were changed at some point (circa 1972-73 I think) too. The original magazine followers had a sort of extended "X" shape while later magazines employed a more solid follower.

 
A local shop has some nice looking 39-2's. Other than being blued single-stacks, is there anything to look out for in the 39-2? Are the trigger actions usually good?

I tried to search the forum, but I think "39-2" is too short or an invalid search term.

Thanks

39-2 is a GREAT gun. Have had mine for years, was a helo gunner's sidearm in Nam. Shoots thousands of rounds, accurately, with very little TLC. (Not too good in heavy sand or mud, however). This gun fits the hand very well, holds nine rounds including one in the chamber, and shoots straighter than I do.
 
The 39 as already stated is a fine pistol. The only drawback I can see with them is that they do not like to run dry. Properly lubed they will run all day! When I say dry I mean really dry as in no lube at all, I believe a few police agencys had failures to operate that was traced to no lubrication in the weapons. I do not consider this a draw back as one should maintain thier weapon!
 
39-2

I have a chance to buy a LNIB 39-2 w/ all of the original factory paper work,box, magazines, original wax paper, etc. I have no idea what these things go for, prices seem to be all over the place. The serial# is #A3228XX, not sure when it was made. Is there anything to be concerned with from a mechanical standpoint with this gun? Any help at all would greatly be appreciated. The gun looks brand new. Thanks in advance for any help, I really appreciate it.
Respectfully,
SM1357
 
As I have stated before on this forum...The 39 and 39-2 were the height of SW's manufacturing ability. Sure there were some problems, however try to buy a ISP model from a retired ISP Trooper. My love of them started with the model 52 target gun. I thought the Mod 39 was some what like it So it had to be good I have had both 39 and 39-2, with a little internal upgrades and tuning they are sill the finest duty gun that Smith made IMO. Of course I started law enforcement in the 60's so I could be somewhat jaded in my opinion. You know the steel pistols and leather holsters era. Keep it, save it. or put it in the sale section with pictures....This is the pistol that started the semi auto craze in the law enforcement community, and parish the thought American Made......... The famous or infamous Paris Theodore started the small auto craze by crating the ASP from the 39 series. Smith adopted??? the design and subsequently the 3913-14-53 all still in demand. ISP (Illinois State Police)
 
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I collect Model 39's I have pre-Model 39's, regular 39's, steel frame 39's, engraved 39's in both blue and nickel and a few custom DEVEL and ASP 39's. To me they are the best looking Smith&Wesson 9mm ever made. I carried one (39-2) off duty for 15 years, and it never let me down. Always fed/shot whatever ammo I used, and always hit what I shot at. You can never go wrong with them. They are also fun to collect.
 
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