Model 41 scope
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A 4 power scope is a lot of scope on a .22 handgun. I have quite a few 2 power scopes and really like them. 4 power makes off hand shooting really tough.
It should work ok off a sandbag rest but it's not something I would put on my M41. I prefer the red dot. It's enough of a challenge for my level of offhand marksmanship and shooting off a rest is, for me at least, too easy & boring.
JohnHL
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If you are trying to determine just how accurate and consistent your M41 truly is, then your thought of putting on a 4X (or higher) power scope for bench rest shooting is an excellent idea.
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CrankyThunder
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I have done that........If you already have the scope and the barrel has the picatinny mount, go ahead and give it a try.
Probably will not like it.
I tried it and did not notice any increase in accuracy when benched and 4 power is too powerful to hold either one handed or two handed. Your fighting the scope trying to get a image to appear as you are holding it on target.
For what it is worth, I am a expert level bullseye shooter and regularly check accuracy of my teammates handguns off a bench to verify it is the shooter and not the equipment. I also have a model 41 barrel with a old Bushnell 1.6 power scope that can be kicked up to 2.6 with a lens that screws on the front. 1.6 power is doable but I do not like it. 2.6 is impossible.
I have a ultra dot red dot on my Ruger 44 magnum revolver and routinely hit milk jugs at 50 yards, about half the time at 100 yards with the revolver. Took a 2.5 power scope off of it and my accuracy improved along with my enjoyment.
Like I said, if you already have the scope go for it but I would not invest any money in it with my experience.
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Crankster
Probably will not like it.
I tried it and did not notice any increase in accuracy when benched and 4 power is too powerful to hold either one handed or two handed. Your fighting the scope trying to get a image to appear as you are holding it on target.
For what it is worth, I am a expert level bullseye shooter and regularly check accuracy of my teammates handguns off a bench to verify it is the shooter and not the equipment. I also have a model 41 barrel with a old Bushnell 1.6 power scope that can be kicked up to 2.6 with a lens that screws on the front. 1.6 power is doable but I do not like it. 2.6 is impossible.
I have a ultra dot red dot on my Ruger 44 magnum revolver and routinely hit milk jugs at 50 yards, about half the time at 100 yards with the revolver. Took a 2.5 power scope off of it and my accuracy improved along with my enjoyment.
Like I said, if you already have the scope go for it but I would not invest any money in it with my experience.
Regards,
Crankster
I have a Burris 2X on one of my M41s; probably wouldn't have put one on but found the barrel with the scope mounted. It is phenomenally accurate off bags/bench. Never tried a 4X so can't say it wouldn't work but the 2X is great. Good luck.
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Fishinfool
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Personally, I think a 4x scope on a model 41 that is to be used primarily for bench rest shooting is a solid choice. For years I have ran a 4x on my HS Victor as a squirrel hunting rig. Run a 4x on my TC Contender in .223 as well.
A higher power scope does not make you shake more. It magnifies the movement that is already there. If anything, it forces you to hold steadier when you see how much you are really moving, and improves accuracy.
One real drawback to higher power optics on a handgun is the reduced field of vision you see thru the optic. It can be an issue hunting, or any circumstance that requires you to get on target fast. Shouldn't be an issue for range use.
I think your plan of a 4x for bench, and a red dot for general use is a solid plan.
Larry
A higher power scope does not make you shake more. It magnifies the movement that is already there. If anything, it forces you to hold steadier when you see how much you are really moving, and improves accuracy.
One real drawback to higher power optics on a handgun is the reduced field of vision you see thru the optic. It can be an issue hunting, or any circumstance that requires you to get on target fast. Shouldn't be an issue for range use.
I think your plan of a 4x for bench, and a red dot for general use is a solid plan.
Larry
I wish that were true for me. Somehow I don't follow convention. I've experimented with optical sights on my 41 and other Bullseye guns. I find myself going back to iron sights. The optics do show me how much I move, but I work too hard to put the dang dot righhhhhht.... in the center and YANK goes the trigger. You can guess the results. With irons, I can't see as well, but my scores are better. I work them less, and the shots go off more smoothly with adequate alignment. Of course without help, I can't focus on the front sight anymore. So, I wear my computer glasses and get a great sight picture. Sight alignment at the pistol is much more important that alignment with the target in my experience.
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I've had 4x scopes on a bunch of .22 pistols including a 41 and liked them all. My current 1969 41 doesn't have a scope on any of its barrel configurations. I traded out the scoped 5 1/2" barrel years ago but not because I didn't like it. Someone liked it more, I liked the trade and I had other super accurate scoped .22 pistols.
I'll never part with the only scoped .22 I still have. It's just an older H.S. Sport King with some parts I changed out. It's perfect with a 4x scope.
Jim
I'll never part with the only scoped .22 I still have. It's just an older H.S. Sport King with some parts I changed out. It's perfect with a 4x scope.
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That's the plan. I'll have one barrel with the red dot and one with the 4x. Ya think the 4x is enough power to bench at 25 yds, would like about 1/2 or less target to focus on.
JohnHL
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4X is probably enough for 25 yards, but I have scoped my Ruger 22 Target Models, and benched on calm days, 50 and 75 yards are hardly out of the question.
A 2X-6X variable could be just the ticket to see how "rifle like" these accurate little pistols can be!
John
Go to the 50 yd line!
If you're interested in serious accuracy work with a .22 semiauto pistol, then the first consideration should be to do so at 50 yds.
Then, choose your optic accordingly.
Even mediocre ammo will seem pretty good at 25 yds.
If you're interested in serious accuracy work with a .22 semiauto pistol, then the first consideration should be to do so at 50 yds.
Then, choose your optic accordingly.
Even mediocre ammo will seem pretty good at 25 yds.
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