Model 700 Remington recall

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A little earlier tonite I got on the website to get my 700 BDL rifle returned to get the trigger updated, all went well until the question, has it ever fired or went off accidently, I checked no, it kept comming back to the same question after about 10 times of NO I checked yes and I was able to complete the form and got it sent to them. I had always thought they did not care if it went off or not they wanted to update it. Has anyone on the forum had this problem? Jeff
 
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My '94 Remington 700 in 338wm has never misfired. I refuse to let anyone touch it. With new Winchester super X ammo she puts two bullets through the same hole. She is very accurate. I'm afraid to send it back. She doesn't miss if I do my part. I never seen a new bolt action rifle this accurate right out of the box with new ammo.
 
this whole 700 trigger dust up is a load of nonsense. yes, I am aware of the supposed incidences where a couple people got killed but I am still not convinced some back yard gun plumbing and DIY trigger jobs couple with unsafe gun handling practices aren't the reason. I have 2 model 700 right now and have had 3 others in the past, all with old style Remington triggers. None has ever fired without me pulling the trigger. I think this entire mess was a witch hunt orchestrated by the gun grabbers and fueled by careless or reckless gun owners who found it more palatable to blame the tool rather them themselves for either ignoring the 4 principles of safe gun handling and/or modify their guns without knowing what they are doing.
 
this whole 700 trigger dust up is a load of nonsense. yes, I am aware of the supposed incidences where a couple people got killed but I am still not convinced some back yard gun plumbing and DIY trigger jobs couple with unsafe gun handling practices aren't the reason. I have 2 model 700 right now and have had 3 others in the past, all with old style Remington triggers. None has ever fired without me pulling the trigger. I think this entire mess was a witch hunt orchestrated by the gun grabbers and fueled by careless or reckless gun owners who found it more palatable to blame the tool rather them themselves for either ignoring the 4 principles of safe gun handling and/or modify their guns without knowing what they are doing.


I don't think that washes, because Mike Walker, the designer, admitted that he'd discovered an error and asked Remington to let him correct it as the basic design was going into production as the M-721-722 series back in the 1940's. The marketing people said that it'd cost an extra nickel, yes, five cents, to fix and that'd keep them from selling it at their target price, which was designed to sound good to consumers. Far be it from Remington to just eat the minor loss, if they HAD to market at that price.
 
I don't think that washes, because Mike Walker, the designer, admitted that he'd discovered an error and asked Remington to let him correct it as the basic design was going into production as the M-721-722 series back in the 1940's. The marketing people said that it'd cost an extra nickel, yes, five cents, to fix and that'd keep them from selling it at their target price, which was designed to sound good to consumers. Far be it from Remington to just eat the minor loss, if they HAD to market at that price.
yeah, I saw Mike Walker on the Dateline special or whatever it was. He looked so old, frail and confused I doubt he could remember where he **** last. It looked to me like the news program "ambushed" him and led him to the story they wanted to tell regardless of the facts. They shamed him into a manufactured admission with a guilt trip without providing all the facts, if he was even capable of comprehending them. No one is going to kill or injure someone, especially a family member, and take responsibility when plantiff lawyers are telling them it's not their fault for monkeying with the triggers etc and that they should sue Remington in hopes a 7 figure settlement will assuage their guilt.
 
Sorry,, I'm a bit confused. I thought the Remington trigger recall was on the X mark trigger mfg. from 2006 to 2014.

PRODUCT SAFETY WARNING AND RECALL NOTICE REMINGTON MODEL 700? AND MODEL SEVEN? RIFLES

Both my Remington 700's were on the the recall list. But I fixed them,,, Timney triggers were on sale at the time and I ordered two of them. IMO a much better trigger than the X mark for a smooth consistent trigger pull.

(edit) ,, found another articile about Remington replacing all 700 triggers. The X mark trigger recall was the only one I had heard about..
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...-to-replace-triggers-in-all-model-700-rifles/
 
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I sent mine in about this time last year. I don't remember any questions like that. The recall form just asked for serial number and return info as I remember.

If you check yes for unintentional discharge all your information is probably sent to the FBI for unsolved shootings incidents. ;)
 
The Remington 700 BDL .30-'06 that I bought in 1989 brand new is good, I went to the Remington website and typed in my rifle's serial number and they said it was NOT on the recall list.

Never had any problems with the rifle, it is very accurate.
 
I agree that following the rules of safe gun handling would have prevented all of the injuries/deaths attributed to 700 triggers.
- Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
- Always keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot.
- Always keep the gun unloaded, until you're ready to use it.


I've been shooting Remington 700's for over thirty years and currently have nine of them and a 40X, so I have a fair amount of experience with their old triggers (not the X-Mark). I've adjusted dozens of them (for myself and others), but I follow Remington specifications that were published before the lawyers put a stop to it. I had a problem with the trigger on one of the guns that was purchased used, but a good cleaning and proper adjustment cured it.

The recall is for pre-1982 guns and the modification allows unloading the rifle with the safety engaged. The original safety on these earlier guns locks the bolt, which is a feature I actually like. I once lost a cartridge while I was working my way up a mountain with a later model 700 slung over my shoulder. I may have brushed it against some scrub oak, but I discovered the bolt all the way open and the chambered cartridge long gone when I got to the stand. $3 down the tubes! I also witnessed someone miss their first attempt on an antelope, when their gun failed to fire. The bolt handle got nudged up a tad when the safety was on and he didn't notice it. When he pulled the trigger, the striker force was bled off enough closing the bolt that the cartridge didn't fire. There was a very light dent on the primer. He did get the goat after racking in another shell.

It's important to keep the trigger group clean and a lot of owners don't give it a second thought. Some of these guns are over 50 years old and gradue can accumulate and cause malfunctions. I don't disassemble the triggers, I simply pull the action out of the stock, spray the trigger group with action cleaner and give it a light lube.

The original 700 triggers are actually quite good when properly adjusted, but it's important to not set them below 3-1/2 lbs. I don't know how heavy the factory sets the pull because my TP scale only goes up to 72 oz, but I do know that I need to bury the needle and reef on it some more to release the striker on most of the guns I've examined. Remington puts a goober of epoxy over the adjustment screws to keep them from moving, but it's easily removed with a razor blade. After I make adjustments, I clean the area with alcohol and re-apply jewlers epoxy.

Here's the old factory instructions for adjusting triggers:

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Since we're talking 700's, I've included a gratuitous photo of one I just picked up at a swap meet on Mothers day. :D
It's a 1965 BDL with the factory stainless steel barrel chambered in .264 Win Mag and topped with a Bausch & Lomb Balvar 8A. It's definitely not going back for the recall modification! ;)
 

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A problem on the early 700 bull barrel target gun was getting ready to pull the trigger & for some reason put the safety on. Then when you pushed the safety off it would fire sometimes. A light trigger could cause this also. This recall has been going on 30+ years. I am not complaining.--I really like my 700s.:D
 
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If the gun fires when we go from safety on to safety off the sear to the bolt relationship isn't fitted correctly.
 
Does this recall include model 721s? I've got a 300 H&H magnum that I bought back in 1957.. So far so good..
 
weatherby,
I appreciate the offer but I think I'll pass it on to my Grandson.:)
My Son gets the Model 70 Winchester in the same caliber that belonged to my Dad and the Gs will get mine.

I killed my first elk with that rifle when I was 15. Been lots of game and critters fall to those two guns since then.
 
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After hunting with my friend, an ex Marine and VN combat vet. his Model 700 discharged when he started to open the bolt to clear the chamber.
Finger away from the trigger, BOOM.
This was in 1978.
It can happen. It scared the **** out of him.
Good thing the muzzle was pointed in a safe direction, toward my truck. Blew out my rr tire. He bought me a new tire and a pizza.
Jim
 
When I got my first 700, shortly ago, the manual said I could adjust the trigger...not so much, installed the Timney, and shortly after that I got the recall notice. Nope, not interested.
 
When I bought my 700 SPS in .308 two years ago I had just mounted the rail and scope and got it sighted in when I got the recall notice. Instead of pulling the scope and rail off, I popped for the Timney trigger/safety @3 lbs and had a trusted gunsmith install it. Matter of fact it was so easy he did it while i stood and watched and didn't charge me anything.

The next week I sent Remington the invoice for the Timney and a letter expecting them to reimburse me for the cost of the trigger. Three months later I received a letter telling me the recall was voluntary and they wouldn't be sending me a check. I knew it was a long shot but I tried. If it took them three months to send me a letter, how long would the "repair" to the trigger take? I'm not slamming Rem, I'm just asking.

I've also got a used 1994 Remington 700 in .270 that I have the same trusted gunsmith check the trigger safety and its fine. He also lowered the pull to 3 lbs for me, no issues.

IMHO: follow good safety practices and common sense.
 
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