Maddmax
US Veteran
Sounds like tool chatter when they were doing it ?
S&W is the best. They'll get it fixed/replaced.
mp15 barrel problem
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Sounds like tool chatter when they were doing it ?
S&W is the best. They'll get it fixed/replaced.
Buffalohunter60
US Veteran
I agree on the pins....I used a very solid set-up (an anvil) and a decent size hammer and gave them a very hard rap......A small hammer will not do it. Not to mean a sledge hammer LOL. I know the feeling when it comes to accuracy......I expect a lot out of any of my rifles and at first I was not getting what I wanted out of my sport. I was shooting just resting the forearm (free floated) on a bag and using one hand under the pistol grip and also my other hand on the stock and had a pretty steady rest. I tried hurters ammo and was not satisfied with the groups....then tried federal and got better groups with it...but still not what I wanted (after seeing Rebs groups LOL) so I sent it to oneeye for him to see what his dialed reloads would do....and gotta tell ya...I was impressed with the groups.....cant expect any better out of a 16" light weight barrel....exceptional accuracy. Now I purchased a windham weaponery ar and have not had a chance to wring it out yet...will set it up like the sport...add a bipod...get some good ammo and see what it can do. Thats half the fun is getting it dialed in ....I did e-mail S&W and they were going to have me send it in ....but oneye solved the problem with different ammo.....and probably a "little" better shooting LOL. You will get the problem solved, there is no doubt in my mind...the sport can shoot...and if the barrel is bad....S&W will stand behind it. Those marines can shoot.......thanks for dialing that sport in.
off to the local gun store, get some deals on holiday stocking stuffers, ammo, oils, cleaners, and some copper remover! Gonna scrub and scrub again, go try to shoot again one more time! will stay in touch.
thanks again to all
Chuck
thanks again to all
Chuck
got home, cleaned, and cleaned and cleaned again. scrubbed the bore, got it flannel swabbed clean! I compared it to the bore of the other mp15 which is exactly the same gun. It is obvious that the bore is faulty, one is gleaming smooth, mirror like finish, the other just looks awful. Who knows how this barrel slipped thru the QC of S&W, but no worries I am still a big fan of S&W! Cannot wait to ship it out.
Took both rifles to the range. the good one shot 1.5" group of about 30 rounds. The one with the problems, well after 10 rounds i gave up with a group of like 7", above and around the bullseye.
Just waiting for S&W to send a shipping label.
Just waiting for S&W to send a shipping label.
I am glad you are sending it home to Mother, your rifle should shoot so much better than that. Bet ya a dollar you get a new barrel!!
I appreciate the support! I have learned alot in the past few days.
Hopefully it ships to S&W soon! 11/27 talked to S&W this am, and they said I should get an email with shipping info in about 48 hours? must be busy holiday season.
11/28 OK! finally got a shipping label and time to pack and off to FEDEX. btw! as per fedex request,you must declare to the fedex employee that you are shipping a weapon/firearm, and can only do so at specific FEDEX centers! See FEDEX.Com for complete info. . . . .
Great Holidays to all!
Chuck
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Maddmax
US Veteran
Keep us posted on what goes on. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too.
OK Today is 12/4 my rifle is still on the fedex trailer heading east being pulled my a mule team. scheduled to get there tomorrow.
I asked if i could pay to upgrade the shipping, and fedex said no. I would have to get a separate shipping label and pay the full amount for 2nd day air. Ugh.
Oh well patience is the key!
Happy Peaceful Holidays my Brothers and Sisters.
chuck
Buffalohunter60
US Veteran
Good luck Chuck and happy holidays, I have no doubt that S&W will solve the problem and keep us posted. I hope to get another sport if I can find one, they are so in demand here (NH) that they sell out as soon as they hit the gun shops. We should thank Obama...he has done more to sell AR,s and ammo than any president we ever had and reinforced our will to protect and defend our second ammendment.
Mine are old school MP15's, with dust cover and bullet assist button. we seem to have alot here in So. Cal., what was a wait to get was my Sig 1911 stainless .45. Oh what a nice piece of Art/machinery!
Happy Holidays
Chuck
Today is the 10th. Talked to S&W this morning, they said the rifle is under warranty repair and I should get it sometime next week. Didnt say what was done, but atleast it is being taken care of!
Kinda like an extra christmas present for me! I cant wait! I want it back yesterday!!!
Happy Holidays!
Chuck
Kinda like an extra christmas present for me! I cant wait! I want it back yesterday!!!
Happy Holidays!
Chuck
While waiting for my rifle
Wife and I took a basic firearms safety class. It was more tactical in application than I expected. Great class. That was Sat. 12/8
On 12/11 I go home, open my front door and immediately notice my rear patio glass door was compromised. Burglary. I went to my lock box in the kitchen, got my xd40 .40 cal jhp ready. Proceeded to clear the house room by room to find no one. They got my laptop, ps3, and my good MP15. They found the keys to the rifle safe, fortunately all other weapons and ammo were locked up in the garage.
Thank goodness it was only stuff, and insurance will cover it. BUT, we were trained, albeit basic, but I was on autopilot til the house was clear.
Education is good, I will get more!
Happy Holidays!
Chuck D
Wife and I took a basic firearms safety class. It was more tactical in application than I expected. Great class. That was Sat. 12/8
On 12/11 I go home, open my front door and immediately notice my rear patio glass door was compromised. Burglary. I went to my lock box in the kitchen, got my xd40 .40 cal jhp ready. Proceeded to clear the house room by room to find no one. They got my laptop, ps3, and my good MP15. They found the keys to the rifle safe, fortunately all other weapons and ammo were locked up in the garage.
Thank goodness it was only stuff, and insurance will cover it. BUT, we were trained, albeit basic, but I was on autopilot til the house was clear.
Education is good, I will get more!
Happy Holidays!
Chuck D
sorry about the break in, I am getting tired of low lifes and the fact that the criminal justice system just slaps them on the wrist. I am not a pot smoker but it seems that they get stiffer jail sentences than what I consider real criminals and it just isnt right. A year ago a convicted felon shot my dog in my yard, he thought it was a different dog. They didnt do anything to him for being a felon in possession of a firearm, just gave him some community service and a year probation. He had previously been convicted of Felony Assault with a weapon and only got probation then. It just makes a person mad.
Thanks for the support! It seems I told this story on a different forum, one that talked about the value of handgun training, well some keyboard cowboy jumped my *** about how I handled myself. Granted it was naive, but my point was that I had started training, it was good and that I wanted to get more.
I understand his point of view being a person who trains swat for a living, super type A gung ho commando, anything you do or learn from others is just ****. Well that is, IMHO so wrong.
I entered my home, was partially in when I saw the disruption, so I chose to arm and defend myself and my home. His opinion was I should have gone back outside and called the local Leo's.
In hindsight that would be an option, but it took them 15 minutes after I called to show up to take the report.
This guy was over the top about how swat is trained, with special cameras, dogs, et al.. In the real world I live in, that just doesn't happen for a B&E.
**** it took 48 hours for a csi print person with less than a year experience to show up and spread that graphite dust EveryWhere!
He thinks I am a foolish cowboy type, but is willing to slap me on the back, call me a stud and sell me his advanced tactical training, for a nominal fee!
My heart goes out for the families wrecked by the shooting in Conneticut. I will continue to educate and train myself with my weapons. It is my responsibility as a gun owner, to be the best I can be.
Especially when there is a group or groups out there who think to the extremes of either they want all law abiding weapons, or a police state who feel the only people who should have guns are the "authorities"!
I have been on the receiving end of a loaded gun robbery. I refuse to go thru that feeling of terrorism again. I will take action, and take my chances.
Happy holidays and may God Bless!
Chuck
I understand his point of view being a person who trains swat for a living, super type A gung ho commando, anything you do or learn from others is just ****. Well that is, IMHO so wrong.
I entered my home, was partially in when I saw the disruption, so I chose to arm and defend myself and my home. His opinion was I should have gone back outside and called the local Leo's.
In hindsight that would be an option, but it took them 15 minutes after I called to show up to take the report.
This guy was over the top about how swat is trained, with special cameras, dogs, et al.. In the real world I live in, that just doesn't happen for a B&E.
**** it took 48 hours for a csi print person with less than a year experience to show up and spread that graphite dust EveryWhere!
He thinks I am a foolish cowboy type, but is willing to slap me on the back, call me a stud and sell me his advanced tactical training, for a nominal fee!
My heart goes out for the families wrecked by the shooting in Conneticut. I will continue to educate and train myself with my weapons. It is my responsibility as a gun owner, to be the best I can be.
Especially when there is a group or groups out there who think to the extremes of either they want all law abiding weapons, or a police state who feel the only people who should have guns are the "authorities"!
I have been on the receiving end of a loaded gun robbery. I refuse to go thru that feeling of terrorism again. I will take action, and take my chances.
Happy holidays and may God Bless!
Chuck
Just remember the tactical commandos would rather you leave your protection in someone elses hands, in our society, as it is, that is not possible. The worst thing is that you can find a person in your house, holding your wife or children at knife/gunpoint, and if you take care of the situation you may still be charged, especially if it is a person of a different ethnicity. The castle doctrine is pretty sketchy at best and at worst non-existent. I do not know where you live and it really doesnt matter but be careful, now that the criminals know you have a gun safe you are likely to be a target again. Our thoughts and prayers go with you!!
Buffalohunter60
US Veteran
Hi Chuck, Sorry to hear you were victimized and you did what I would have done. When someone invades the home, they are the enemy and would not hesitate to harm you or your family. We all need to be prepared to defend ourselves and our family. I feel for the survivors of the mass murder in Conn. Having lost a 17 year old son, I know the pain.....Because we have evil people among us, we have to be prepared and I wish someone at that school had been prepared and allowed to deal with that lunitic and maybe more kids would have survived. There people are among us and can strike when you least expect it. I have a German Shepard and I do not lock my doors...they will never get by the dog without shooting her and thats all the warning I need. I do not know where you live but if you can have a dog there, it will put a stop to being an easy target. Hope you have a good Xmas and prayers to the people that have lost their children and for the survivors that have this nightmare burned in their memory.
John
John
Maddmax
US Veteran
Very good point Grover.
Take care Chuck. Training is good.I too would have done the same as you. Only difference,I CCW.
I do not know where you live and it really doesnt matter but be careful, now that the criminals know you have a gun safe you are likely to be a target again. Our thoughts and prayers go with you!![/QUOTE]
Yeah, well atleast as far as the gun safe goes, there was only the one rifle in there. The other one is still being repaired!
All the rest of my arsenal is locked in safes and steel achored lockers in the garage. Now that I have small pistol safes that are activated by finger tip combos, i can move the rifle safe back to the garage and increase the security of the area.
Ordered security system for the house, door/window sensors, motion sensors. The best part of it is the yard sign and window stickers from the security company. Just make em move to an easier target.
I would love a dog, but it seems too cruel to the dog to be in the yard and not get alot of attention, we both work alot of hours, at varied times of the day or days. Might sound weird but, would not do that to an animal.
Again, all are safe, they only took stuff that seems to appeal to young kids, rifle, ps3 and all the ps3 titles, (no xbox stuff, all left behind.?) laptop that is password protected and as soon as it is activated/password compromised there are instructions to immeditatley wipe the harddrive and notify me of its location.
That is pretty cool!
Merry Christmas and God Bless to all!
Chuck
Yeah, well atleast as far as the gun safe goes, there was only the one rifle in there. The other one is still being repaired!
All the rest of my arsenal is locked in safes and steel achored lockers in the garage. Now that I have small pistol safes that are activated by finger tip combos, i can move the rifle safe back to the garage and increase the security of the area.
Ordered security system for the house, door/window sensors, motion sensors. The best part of it is the yard sign and window stickers from the security company. Just make em move to an easier target.
I would love a dog, but it seems too cruel to the dog to be in the yard and not get alot of attention, we both work alot of hours, at varied times of the day or days. Might sound weird but, would not do that to an animal.
Again, all are safe, they only took stuff that seems to appeal to young kids, rifle, ps3 and all the ps3 titles, (no xbox stuff, all left behind.?) laptop that is password protected and as soon as it is activated/password compromised there are instructions to immeditatley wipe the harddrive and notify me of its location.
That is pretty cool!
Merry Christmas and God Bless to all!
Chuck
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