My Baby AR

[GL9CK]

Just be aware that the lower is not the same as a regular AR. So if you get a BAD lever (magpul) it will need to be bent to make it fit the trigger guard and miss the mag release...NDZ Performance do a custom made SBR for the 15-22 which a lot of peeps have and gets great reviews, SBR Speed Bolt Release
I had a Magpul bent to fit because i preferred the look...not sure on the Phase 5, i remember looking at it when i was debating which to get, maybe someone can confirm if it fits or not....

My trigger.....ah...my beautiful trigger....the Hiperfire 24 C
Money very very well spent.

Good info! Thank you! I thought the lowers were nearly the same. You saved me from wasting money.

The NDZ lever is nice.

I'll check out that trigger. Even the name sounds expensive. LOL

You will have to contact Craig at TQM to get the answer to

your question .......

MST Ambidextrous Charging Handle 15-22, Tactical Quarter Master.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-15-22/474939-mst-charging-handle-problems.html

The Phase 5 will not fit our 15-22's and as GhostMutt says the Magpul lever will need tweaking

to fit......Just go with the NDZ lever.......but remember one thing at a time haha

NDZ Performance S&W M&P 15-22 SBR Speed Bolt Release FDE

keith

Thank you for the info! You also saved me from wasting money.

I do like the NDZ lever. One thing at a time? What's that mean? LOL I'm an impatient engineer with what seems like adult ADD. I want it all and I want it NOW!

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A little update. I went to the range today and shot 100 rounds of CCI Standard Velocity. I did not have one single FTE/stovepipe or any malfunction whatsoever. So apparently my issues stemmed from me over-lubing the gun, me improperly loading the magazines or maybe it was the always polarizing topic called "break-in". Either way I am happy with the gun.

I wanted to shoot more of my Remington Golden Bullet, but it was extremely hot and humid outside and I wanted to get some shots through my pistols as well. I am going to try to shoot my Baby AR a little more this week.

Now only if I could shoot my M&P9 Pro as well as my M&P15-22...

 

[GL9CK]

I went shooting tonight. It was late and I wanted to focus on handguns so I only got 50 rounds through my M&P15-22. I used Remington Golden Bullet ammo and did not have a single issue. I'm very happy that my issues seem to have resolved themselves.

Here's my target at 25 yards. Looks like I need to dial in my reflex sight some more.

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[GhostMutt]

Is that offhand or from the bench?

 

[GL9CK]

Is that offhand or from the bench?

That's from the bench. The foregrip was resting on a padded block of wood while I was sitting. No elbows or anything else were resting on the bench. I shake like a tree in the wind during an earthquake due to medications so you'd know if it was offhand.

 

[GL9CK]

Is lead nose ammo dirtier than jacketed ammo? What I mean is will I have to clean my chamber or barrel or both more often when using non jacketed ammo?

 

[GL9CK]

I shot 100 rounds through this gun yesterday. I had a ton of FTE / stovepipes. I was using Winchester white box - 36 grain, 1280 FPS copper-plate hollow points. But I haven't cleaned the gun since it was brand new. And now I have over 700 rounds through it including the ones I fired yesterday. I guess it's time for a cleaning.

 

[Pisgah]

Right off the bat I will admit to being a 63 year old coot whose better days are probably behind him. But even though I'll confess to being "out of it" when it comes to a lot of things that are considered "cool" today, I have to say that in a lot of areas I feel sorry for the younger generations.

One of those areas is that of semiauto.22 rifles. There are 3 .22 semis in my safe today. I bought my first one at the ripe old age of 13, a Remington Nylon 66 that I bought at a local hardware store. Oh man, was it cool, the coolest thing going back then, and it cost me the grand sum of $49.95, a price that even a 13-year-old could afford after a month's worth of cutting grass -- not only the rifle, but 1000 rounds of Remington hollowpoints, to boot! And the coolest thing -- to buy it, I just walked in to the store, pointed it out, and plunked down my money -- no adult required, no paperwork filled out. Over the next 10 years I shot the snot out of that little rifle. By the end of that first decade and a half, I sent it back to Remington -- not because it was malfunctioning, even though it had been through 15 years of the type of abuse that only a teenager can dish out, but because the guaranteed-for-life Zytel stock had developed a crack along one seam. To my neverending delight it was returned to me within 2 weeks, not only with a new stock but having been totally refurbished and refinished to absolutely-new condition! Now, 35 years and several thousand more rounds later it remains in nearly-new condition and sees action in the woods several times a year. You could probably build a battleship out of the cans it's punctured.

Next acquired was a little Marlin Papoose takedown. Came in a neat zippered case that will float if you drop it in water. If I recall, it set me back about $80. Against all odds, it has a superb trigger and is amazingly accurate, so long as you are careful when installing the barrel to tighten it down juusstt so with the supplied wrench. It's come along with me on many a backpacking small-game-hunting trip, and is one of the few "I'll never sell it" guns I own.

The latest member of the family is a Savage 64. This one came home with me a few years ago when Walmart had made the (since rescinded) decision to remove firearms from their stores. I was browsing through the sporting goods section of the local store and found it clearance priced at $79.95. I surely didn't NEED another .22 semi, but what the heck? These days, when plinking is on the agenda it is usually the one that comes out with me .

Now, why do I feel sorry for youngsters and their M&P-22's? Well, first of all, even if you were to factor in inflation, if all three of these were still available today I doubt buying all three of them at once would set you back as much as the one S&W. Second, I can honestly say I do not recall a single instance when ANY of these rifles has failed to feed, fire and eject with ANY ammo I have put through them. Third, again with ANY ammo, every single one of them is minute-of-squirrel-head accurate at 25 yards, and that is no exaggeration.

So, folks, when your dads or grand-dads finally shuffle off to the great squirrel woods in the sky, don't be too quick to get rid of all those cheap .22 semiautos you find in the closet. They might be your best chance of learning just what a good .22 is all about...

 

[GhostMutt]

As much as I am sure we all enjoyed reading that little slice of times gone by, times have changed.
The majority of folks on here, have little to no issues with their 15-22's (the latest batch being the exception) I for one am perfectly happy with my 15-22.

I think it is an excellent rifle and i can put 10 shots in a 1cm group from 25 yards just resting off my elbows and can get to less than an inch group off hand.

Out of all the semi-autos i have tried, i would not trade my 15-22 for any of them.

 

[GL9CK]

Now, why do I feel sorry for youngsters and their M&P-22's? Well, first of all, even if you were to factor in inflation, if all three of these were still available today I doubt buying all three of them at once would set you back as much as the one S&W. Second, I can honestly say I do not recall a single instance when ANY of these rifles has failed to feed, fire and eject with ANY ammo I have put through them. Third, again with ANY ammo, every single one of them is minute-of-squirrel-head accurate at 25 yards, and that is no exaggeration.

.22LR rifles can be had for much cheaper than the M&P15-22. The Ruger 10/22 is a great example. You can find those under $200. With the M&P15-22 you pay for the furniture and the "cool" factor.

I don't fault the gun for being unreliable if it's filthy like mine was when we shot it. If it's unreliable when clean, which it hasn't been outside of the first 2, improperly loaded magazines, then I would be upset.

As much as I am sure we all enjoyed reading that little slice of times gone by, times have changed.
The majority of folks on here, have little to no issues with their 15-22's (the latest batch being the exception) I for one am perfectly happy with my 15-22.

I think it is an excellent rifle and i can put 10 shots in a 1cm group from 25 yards just resting off my elbows and can get to less than an inch group off hand.

Out of all the semi-autos i have tried, i would not trade my 15-22 for any of them.

What are the latest issues with the current batch? The improperly aligned ejector?

 

[GhostMutt]

Just reading the posts from new owners, it seems something is amiss at quality and control at Springfield.

 

[radyoactive]

I have had mine for almost 2 months and it has worked with very little issues. Maybe a failure once every 100 rounds and that's a big maybe. I've read others can't get the bolt off the rail but no issues here either.

I had a 10/22 that I bought few weeks before the 15-22 and ended up selling the 10/22 as I would probably not shoot it with the 15-22 around.

The 15-22 has to be my favorite so far and it was worth what I paid for it.

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[GL9CK]

I cleaned it last night. It was absolutely filthy in the chamber and on the bolt.

I find it odd that there aren't recommended lube spots from S&W.

 

[radyoactive]

I cleaned it last night. It was absolutely filthy in the chamber and on the bolt.

I find it odd that there aren't recommended lube spots from S&W.

About how many rounds before you cleaned it?

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[GL9CK]

About how many rounds before you cleaned it?

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Close to 1,000 rounds. Definitely over 700.

 

[radyoactive]

I cleaned mine when I first got it and put about 400 rounds through it before cleaning it.

Did you experience any issues the more you shot it?

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[GL9CK]

I cleaned mine when I first got it and put about 400 rounds through it before cleaning it.

Did you experience any issues the more you shot it?

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Yeah I cleaned mine when I first got it as well.

It did seem to be more problematic the more I shot it that last time out.

 

[kd4gij]

I have never had an issue with mo 15-22 It is an older one.
But my model 60 is just as fun to shoot and it gets all the complements at the range.

 

[stonecutter]

Invest in a McFadden loader and the cartridges will always align correctly in the magazine. The only down-side with this device is that it allows you to load your 15-22 as fast as you can shoot it. Allow for this in your ammo budget.
Lightnin' Grip Loader

A plus 1 for the Lightnin Grip Loader its a must have if you have a Smith!

My 15-22 functions perfectly out of the box with all ammo I have tried, I only use decent ammo not cheapo bulk stuff its not worth it, I have purchased a Volquartsen extractor that I am keeping to hand just in case I have a problem but so far so good its still in the packet!

 

[huafist]

It is odd that S&W doesn't fix a known issue.

I have considered the Volquartesen extractor, but I am going to hold off at least for a little while to see how my rifle "breaks in". And, of course, I don't want to do anything to void a warranty in case I need it to fix my ejection or other issues.


I didn't think the charging handle would affect ejection, but it's a valid point not to change it.

I didn't do anything to bend the ejector. I used a brass brush and patches on an Otis pull cord not something like a bore snake. I do really like your straw idea though and will be borrowing it for the future cleanings.

It seems CCI ammo is very popular so I should try that.

I load my magazines using the same method that you do and ensure they are staggered. Good point. I did not know this at first. I only saw it after doing research after the issues during my first shooting session.

I tweaked the ejector on my 15-22 slightly, and installed the Volquartsen extractor - now my rifle literally rockets the casings out of it. I had some that shot out 20' while shooting a steel challenge stage.
After I made those mods, I've had zero issues with stovepipes - regardless of what ammo I've fed it.

 

[huafist]

A plus 1 for the Lightnin Grip Loader its a must have if you have a Smith!

My 15-22 functions perfectly out of the box with all ammo I have tried, I only use decent ammo not cheapo bulk stuff its not worth it, I have purchased a Volquartsen extractor that I am keeping to hand just in case I have a problem but so far so good its still in the packet!

Plus 2 for the Lightnin Grip Loader - I use it for my 15-22 and my Kimber rimfire conversion for my 1911. It's AMAZING.