My BYF 41 P-08

[bgrafsr]

Rig is complete with 3 magazines (FXO), loading tool, original, numbered to the gun wood stocks, an a jme 1941, WAA14 stamped holster.

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[jsfricks]

Very nice Bill! I like that box you have for it. I picked up one this time last year from my wife's uncle, all matching except mags, with original holster and tool. Mine is from 1916 and was used in WWI.

 

[bgrafsr]

I really like the helmet, but the gun is fantastic. My buddy collects German helmets, Bayonets, Lugers, WWI & WWII German rifles, especially snipers, Broomhandles, and P-38's. He has an extensive collection, and he sold me the BYF 41.

He had one German Mauser Rifle several years ago that he sold for $35,000.00.

I got the case and one for my 2nd Generation Colt SAA from Bill's Cases. Bill's Cases

Very nice Bill! I like that box you have for it. I picked up one this time last year from my wife's uncle, all matching except mags, with original holster and tool. Mine is from 1916 and was used in WWI.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Please pardon my ignorance. Who is byf; is that Mauser? Does anyone have a link to an on-line table, or a photo of one?

TIA.

 

[sheepdawg]

byf is indeed Mauser Oberndorf, the original Mauser factory.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

byf is indeed Mauser Oberndorf, the original Mauser factory.

Thank you, sir.

 

[Absalom]

Please pardon my ignorance. Who is byf; is that Mauser? Does anyone have a link to an on-line table, or a photo of one?
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Here is a link to a truly exhaustive table of German manufacturer marks. There are some misspellings, but it seems accurate.

https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/pdf-hell/article-hell-waastempel.pdf

 

[Kurusu]

Please pardon my ignorance. Who is byf; is that Mauser? Does anyone have a link to an on-line table, or a photo of one?

TIA.

Byf is one of the code names atributed to Mauser.

S/42 from 1936 to 1939
42 1939 to 1941
Byf 1941 to 1945
Svw 1945

Edit. On top a 1938 S/42 and on bottom a 1941 Byf

 

[Kurusu]

You will notice that only the 1941 pistol is marked P.08 on the side.
Even though the P.08 was so designated since 1908 and produced for the Army since then, it only got marked when the newly accepted pistol (P.38) production really kicked in and started to be distributed in significative numbers in 1941.

The P.38 was a Walther product and it also had military manfacturer codes
480 for 1940 (only around 7000 produced)
ac 1941 to 1945

The P.38 was also made by Mauser (Byf and Svw)
And by Spreewerke code Cyq

A 1941ac coded P.38 from Walther:

 

[HARDWARE]

 

[Kurusu]

Very nice and excellent pictures. May I trouble you for the block letter?

 

[Jebus35745]

That’s a nice gun Bill has, saw it in person. Is it a Black Widow?? He showed me how the loading tool worked so I bought a reproduction for the Luger my Father brought back from WW2. Fun gun to shoot, actually the one Bill has is too nice to shoot. Larry

 

[HARDWARE]

Very nice and excellent pictures. May I trouble you for the block letter?

im at work and dont recall it offhand. i'll post it up later when i get home. seems like it might have been "n"

 

[Kurusu]

That’s a nice gun Bill has, saw it in person. Is it a Black Widow?? He showed me how the loading tool worked so I bought a reproduction for the Luger my Father brought back from WW2. Fun gun to shoot, actually the one Bill has is too nice to shoot. Larry

The "black widow" Luger is a USA marketing invention. It doesn't exist.

 

[Kurusu]

That’s a nice gun Bill has, saw it in person. Is it a Black Widow?? He showed me how the loading tool worked so I bought a reproduction for the Luger my Father brought back from WW2. Fun gun to shoot, actually the one Bill has is too nice to shoot. Larry

They shoot good too.
https://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&sour...AIcQtwIIKTAB&usg=AOvVaw2yj3O2PL_0IfIDrrAgp16d

 

[bgrafsr]

Yes, they shoot good, but as original numbered parts may break, I'm really hesitant to shoot it. I've been told it's worth upward of $3500.00.

By the way my gun is # 4461 U

 

[Kurusu]

Yes, they shoot good, but as original numbered parts may break, I'm really hesitant to shoot it. I've been told it's worth upward of $3500.00.

By the way my gun is # 4461 U

Mine is 8024 o

I won't buy a gun that I will not shoot. The firing pin of the one I'm shooting is not matching. But was fitted to the gun. I shoot it in competition, Lugers used to be service pistols here. We had a batch of Byf 42 (the last ones made) delivered in 1943.

That shooting session was training for a match, with this goal in mind.

 

[HARDWARE]

376p

 

[jsfricks]

Yes, they shoot good, but as original numbered parts may break, I'm really hesitant to shoot it. I've been told it's worth upward of $3500.00.

By the way my gun is # 4461 U

I'm the same way with mine, I haven't shot it yet due to all matching parts. I may end up shooting at least a mag just to say I have shot it. But it'll stay in the family either way. I made that promise to my wife's uncle.

 

[2152hq]

The first Luger I ever owned was a byf41. Cost me $100. All match except the 2 mags. Came with holster, belt and skate key. Great condition.
That was in '70 I think,,maybe '71.
Still have it and shoot it once in a while. Shoots great with Rem-UMC 115fmj. No hiccups. Pretty good trigger too.
Had the LP08 out recently, DWM 1917,,good shooter too, but the rear sight vernier kept running up as you shot from the recoil. Weak little coil spring in there,,I'll leave it alone, it's been like that and just a range toy anyway.

That BlackWidow moniker was from Ralph Shattuck. He coined the phrase back when he was running his 'Ralph Shattuck's World of Lugers' buy/sell collectors business. Made for some interesting reading, but as said it was simply a collectors marketing phrase.
Same with the post WW2 French made 'Grey Ghost' P38's.
Grey Phosphate finished P38's complete with phosphate finished steel stamped grip panels. Made at the Mauser plant post WW2 under French control before the Russians took it over.

Nice looking pistols pictured!,,what's not to like about the Luger....