Redbert31
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Those Looney tunes were the best of all! That's always been one of my all-time favorites[emoji444][emoji445][emoji446]
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MY GARDEN IS PROTECTED !
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susieqz
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i wonder how normal house cats hunt?
cuddles knew all about mice before he ever left the house.
drifter spent lots of time n trouble bringing the kits live mice
to practice with.
she thot this was important, but many cats don't get this training.
heck, i thot it was important or i wouldn't have allowed it.
cuddles knew all about mice before he ever left the house.
drifter spent lots of time n trouble bringing the kits live mice
to practice with.
she thot this was important, but many cats don't get this training.
heck, i thot it was important or i wouldn't have allowed it.
Training
Cuddles wasn't the only one getting trained.
I'm happy to read that on is well in the high country.
Cuddles wasn't the only one getting trained.
I'm happy to read that on is well in the high country.
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Indoor kitties hunt cat toys, flies, anything that moves. When I had kitties, I had a"cat fishing pole" that they really liked. It was simply a thin wooden pole, a ribbon or string attached to it and a feather or a toy mouse (very light weight) attached to the string. I'd wait till kitty was quietly resting and then I'd twitch the end of the stick and draw the feather across his paws or his nose and man, he'd jump a mile and dash after it. All my kitties loved that toy. Another one was a laser pointer, kept them (and me) busy for hours. Of course, the way Drifter did it was the best way and provided a super bonding experience for her and her kits, and mouse and bunny patrol for you [emoji4][emoji175]
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the cats n i train each other.
when drifter first moved in she was very skittish.
i made it a point to stroke her every time i passed.
after thousands of times, i'm gonna touch her when i pass weither i want to or not.
drifter is as trained as she needs to be. she comes to call.
she knows she gets a treat if i call.
cud generally comes, but that's because he generally wants to come in.
my screens are ruined from that rampaging litter, but these two aren't destructive.
they don't try to break in.
if cud wants in, he sits there n cries.
if drifter wants in she just sits there, as she makes no noise outside.
neither tries to tear down the door.
they come n go as they want, subject to curfew.
drifter has always come in for the night.
cud goes out for the night.
cud is alive because he stays in the garden or on the house or arbor roofs all night.
the night is the only cool time now, so he;s smart.
heck, drifter on;y goes out for a few hours morn n night.
she doesn't like 100 degrees any more than i do.
when drifter first moved in she was very skittish.
i made it a point to stroke her every time i passed.
after thousands of times, i'm gonna touch her when i pass weither i want to or not.
drifter is as trained as she needs to be. she comes to call.
she knows she gets a treat if i call.
cud generally comes, but that's because he generally wants to come in.
my screens are ruined from that rampaging litter, but these two aren't destructive.
they don't try to break in.
if cud wants in, he sits there n cries.
if drifter wants in she just sits there, as she makes no noise outside.
neither tries to tear down the door.
they come n go as they want, subject to curfew.
drifter has always come in for the night.
cud goes out for the night.
cud is alive because he stays in the garden or on the house or arbor roofs all night.
the night is the only cool time now, so he;s smart.
heck, drifter on;y goes out for a few hours morn n night.
she doesn't like 100 degrees any more than i do.
vonn
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Been so hot here in my part of Texas hardly any critters are out moving in the daylight. The bird bath has seen a huge increase in use at dawn and dusk as it is in a cooler shaded spot and good clean water. Even had some hawks show up for a bath and a drink.
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looks like i have an indoor n outdoor cat.
yesterday was pleasant; cloudy n mid 80s.
so, i left the garden door open.
cats think this a great idea, coming n going as they please.
drifter spent no more than 6 hours out.
she might be sick.
the vet said the heat might be keeping her in.
she did say drifter's fat was yellow, which could indicate a problem,
but did't say what.
it might be drifter decided to be a house cat.
when she was very preg, i started keeping her in because she was too fat to escape danger, then when the kits were born, she never went out til she decided to bring the kits mice.
so, drifter may just feel that inside, where the food is, is her main territory.
on the other hand, cud was out for 20 hours.
i may have wasted money getting him fixed.
if i fed him outside, he might be happy never coming in.
['m still getting all the pest control i need.
if cud stays alive, n drifter isn;t sick, we are set here.
yesterday was pleasant; cloudy n mid 80s.
so, i left the garden door open.
cats think this a great idea, coming n going as they please.
drifter spent no more than 6 hours out.
she might be sick.
the vet said the heat might be keeping her in.
she did say drifter's fat was yellow, which could indicate a problem,
but did't say what.
it might be drifter decided to be a house cat.
when she was very preg, i started keeping her in because she was too fat to escape danger, then when the kits were born, she never went out til she decided to bring the kits mice.
so, drifter may just feel that inside, where the food is, is her main territory.
on the other hand, cud was out for 20 hours.
i may have wasted money getting him fixed.
if i fed him outside, he might be happy never coming in.
['m still getting all the pest control i need.
if cud stays alive, n drifter isn;t sick, we are set here.
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ho ho,
cuddles earned my respect today/
he caught himself a bird.
[ didn;t get to see the attack, but grabbing
a bird takes speed n agility.
no wonder i lost no grapes.
cuddles earned my respect today/
he caught himself a bird.
[ didn;t get to see the attack, but grabbing
a bird takes speed n agility.
no wonder i lost no grapes.
Susie, , I'm so glad to hear that cud is proving his mettle as a hunter!!
Finally got Bella to pose for a picture to post for her internet friends!! She looks slimmer than her 12.6 pounds here!!
She says "Hi!" to suzie and drifter, and cuddles and Redbert, Jennifer and Iggy, and all her other S&W friends!!
One more week of vacation, then back for another year at school. Still haven't decided when to retire. We'll see.... Just doing one year at a time now.
Best Regards, Les
Finally got Bella to pose for a picture to post for her internet friends!! She looks slimmer than her 12.6 pounds here!!
She says "Hi!" to suzie and drifter, and cuddles and Redbert, Jennifer and Iggy, and all her other S&W friends!!
One more week of vacation, then back for another year at school. Still haven't decided when to retire. We'll see.... Just doing one year at a time now.
Best Regards, Les
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BELLA IS MAJESTIC !
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susieqz
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what do you teach, les?
Criminal Justice. I spent 22 years in law enforcement, and for 18 of them I was an adjunct professor of CJ. In 1997 I was eligible to retire, and was offered a full time teaching position, and retired from law enforcement to accept it. Now I've completed 21 years full time teaching.... Where has the time gone?!?! But I love it, as I have my summers and a month at Christmas free to do as I wish.
Best Regards, Les
Best Regards, Les
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susieqz
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vet didn't say.
criminal justice is fun, when tracing it thru history.
you can see some logic in it, occasionally.
criminal justice is fun, when tracing it thru history.
you can see some logic in it, occasionally.
Grip_Maker's_Wife
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Susie - Are you still feeding drifter canned Tuna? If so, you should consider stopping it. I had never heard of yellow fat disease and so I looked it up. Looks like too much unsaturated fat makes them lose vitamin E. Causes pain and inflammation and can be very serious. I am surprised your vet didn't say anything. Treatment is vitamin E and some other things. It would be important to ask her how much Vitamin D to give because it is fat soluble so we do not excrete extra like water-soluble vitamins. Too much can cause liver damage. I didn't know that canned tuna could be bad either. I hope drifter is okay! Good luck!
Yellow Fat Disease in Cats - Symptoms, Causes, Diagnosis, Treatment, Recovery, Management, Cost
Yellow Fat Disease in Cats - Symptoms, Causes, Diagnosis, Treatment, Recovery, Management, Cost
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Jennifer: Thanks for the information on "Yellow Fat Disease ". I have a friend whose cat has some of the listed symptoms, and I believe she may have been feeding her cat canned tuna. I was unaware of this scary sounding disease. I'm going to print out the information, as she doesn't have Internet or a smartphone!!!
I know that some folks have the misconception that tuna prepared for humans has to be better for their cat than cat food...maybe because it costs more.....without taking into account the differing nutritional needs of felines vs. humans.
Thanks again for bringing this to our attention.
Bella and Lucky seem to thrive on Purina One, although I had Lucky on some expensive vet dry kitten food until he was about 6 months old.
Best Regards, Les
I know that some folks have the misconception that tuna prepared for humans has to be better for their cat than cat food...maybe because it costs more.....without taking into account the differing nutritional needs of felines vs. humans.
Thanks again for bringing this to our attention.
Bella and Lucky seem to thrive on Purina One, although I had Lucky on some expensive vet dry kitten food until he was about 6 months old.
Best Regards, Les
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thanks, jen.
drifter only got tuna for meds, but she now doesn;t like it.
i was gonna feed it to cud tho, so your warning is timely.
drifter eats friskies kibble, friskies pate, milk n mice.
milk is just 4-5 tablespoons, as a treat.
by the way, outside of what the vet saw, drifter's only symptom is staying indoors more.
prior to her pregnancy, she wanted out all daylight hours.
actually, she is hard to get inside at night now. i bet she' prefer staying out all night, like cud.
i just keep her in due to danger. she roams far afield.
now, i gotta find a use for that crappy american tuna.
i only eat italian packed in olive oil.
drifter only got tuna for meds, but she now doesn;t like it.
i was gonna feed it to cud tho, so your warning is timely.
drifter eats friskies kibble, friskies pate, milk n mice.
milk is just 4-5 tablespoons, as a treat.
by the way, outside of what the vet saw, drifter's only symptom is staying indoors more.
prior to her pregnancy, she wanted out all daylight hours.
actually, she is hard to get inside at night now. i bet she' prefer staying out all night, like cud.
i just keep her in due to danger. she roams far afield.
now, i gotta find a use for that crappy american tuna.
i only eat italian packed in olive oil.
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Grip_Maker's_Wife
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Good to hear that Drifter wasn't eating much of it. It did say cats can be deficient in vit E for other reasons but tuna was a high-risk factor. Could be the heat keeping Drifter in during the day. They get overheated just like us. If she is active at night that is a good sign, but I agree too dangerous. Your kitties are too great of an investment to become yote food. I am sure they can find plenty of mice during the morning and early afternoon. They have such keen senses of smell. My semi-feral Edgar can smell out spiders! He is a good boy that way! He keeps my house spider free! 
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@les b. Bella is amazing! And to GMW... Thanks for all the great information about yellow fat disease and tuna. Most of us don't receive enough information about nutrition from our vets until there is a problem. I don't have kitties currently but my little Papillon Logan who had herniated disc surgery (unrelated) developed gastro enteritis and pancreatitis after his surgery. During his recuperation we were encouraged to help him gain weight and muscle. Besides his"healthy" grain free canned food, we offered him lean boiled chicken and beef to give him additional protein. We later found out that even the tiny amount of additional fat in the lean meat may have precipitated the pancreatitis and though it was discovered quickly (we took him right to the emergency vet 1 hour after the first time he vomited), he has to be on 2 medications and special prescription dog food going forward. We are careful now not to give him one crumb of anything not on his diet and he has been healthy since then. We don't even take him while babysitting our 2 year old grandson who loves to feed him table food (before his illness). He will join the festivities again once Parker is old enough to be trusted not to accidentally feed him something that's not allowed. The other grands are 4, 5 and 7 and are very cooperative about feeding him only his prescribed special treats. Pancreatitis can be rapidly fatal in small dogs and now that he's had it, he's especially prone to getting it again. So we have to be vigilant, while trying not to be paranoid! Life goes on [emoji4]
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