MY HAIR BRAINED PROJECT

[steelslaver]

The "KIT"

assembled as a 16" barrelled (5/16" steel liner inside 5/8"-1/2" aluminum) 5 shot 22 lr revolving carbine
Total weight with 5 rounds in cylinder and 11 in brace tube.
24 Ounces

Note the stock barrel is stowed in brace plate while in carbine mode

Spare ammo in BRACE tube, 11 rounds

Notice cut in bottom of barrel for cylinder pin removal

Stock barrel removal jig in brace plate

Rear sight slide works to lock long barrel in alignment.
It also locks the barrel in place in brace plate when in "kit form"

Modified frame. Note the serial number on these is on frame body under the cylinder, NOT the butt

The allen wench for sights and screws that lock in grip and sights is stores in bottom of fore grip with rare earth magnet

I still need to take it out and adjust the sights. I left plenty of height on front sight and I can loosen the screw that holds the front sight and turn it a bit left or right for wind age. Once I get it dialed in I will shorten that screw.

I do not expect it to be a target rifle, but I am sure it will be reasonably accurate for small game etc. If it wasn't for a stupid ATF rule I would wack the barrel down to match the "brace" tube length

Once it is all dialed in it will get some kind of a paint job

 

[alwslate]

Lots of spare time on your hands eh?

 

[mikerjf]

Very nice! I'll take one based on a 357 Model 60, for a "do everything" gun.

 

[steelslaver]

Lots of spare time on your hands eh?

RETIRED

Very nice! I'll take one based on a 357 Model 60, for a "do everything" gun.

Actually I could do that. I would need to go to 5/8" on the brace tube and a different approach to connect to the grip frame because S&W places a serial number there. Make an aluminum grip set where on piece enclosed the grip frame and the other held it in place and have meat in the back of the one that enclosed the grip frame for the rod to screw into. Threading and unthreading a standard J frame barrel would probably not work for that many times unless you did a shrouded barrel and used a nut at the muzzle end.

I prefer the N frame 45 colt model myself

Although the cap and ball model is also interesting and fun

 

[Rudi]

Well, you don't see one of those every day.

 

[alwslate]

Different to say the least

 

[lihpster]

I like it. I see it as kind of like the AR-7. If you carry one of those revolvers in your pocket, one of these would be nice to have in your truck/plane/boat/bug out bag if SHTF. I'd bet it would be a deadly bird/rabbit gun.
No matter if you think there's a need or not, you have to admire the work that went into the design and crafting of it. Really nice work, Sir.

 

[bigmtnman]

I know where you got your inspiration .... "The Day of the Jackal"

 

[ameridaddy]

The "KIT"

...
Once it is all dialed in it will get some kind of a paint job

Fanciest zip gun I ever did see!
You have a LOT of time on your hands! It must be nice to have the capability and ability to do that kind of work.

 

[4T5GUY]

I can appreciate your imagination and execution of it. In a way it reminds me of a Marbles.

I have never shot a revolver so close to my face, especially a black powder one. Are there any unpleasant issues?

Jim

 

[AJ]

Bored and to much time on your hands? Or just taking your mind off of other problems?

 

[shawn mccarver]

Regarding your thread title, is it hair brained or "hare-brained?"

 

[mchom]

The fact that you CAN and DID do this is impressive!

 

[steelslaver]

I can appreciate your imagination and execution of it. In a way it reminds me of a Marbles.

I have never shot a revolver so close to my face, especially a black powder one. Are there any unpleasant issues?

Jim

Not really you can feel just a little bit of peppering from the powder blast, Not much though. The 45 colt is worse than the cap and . I do wear glasses to shoot them


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[ruger 22]

Well done!! I am always amazed and jealous when I see imagination mixed with talent.

 

[AJ]

Not really you can feel just a little bit of peppering from the powder blast, Not much though. The 45 colt is worse than the cap and . I do wear glasses to shoot them


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Had heard that could be the case with revolving rifles and revolving shotguns.

 

[Baltimoreed11754]

Neat build. I have a lot of hair brained ideas so you are not alone. I'd like to do something like that with a Colt Woodsman.

 

[dsf]

I think I'd be concerned about my hand in front of the cylinder when the gun goes bang. A heavy glove would work.

 

[steelslaver]

I think I'd be concerned about my hand in front of the cylinder when the gun goes bang. A heavy glove would work.

The gap blast goes sideways in a cone shaped manner from the gap, NOT straight forward, Also, you elbow, which is the part of your arm in plane with the gap is down under the frame below the cylinder gap. Plus it is about 10" away from the gap and the pressure from the gap dissipates very rapidly as distance increases. IF it spit lead the lead will not go down and through the frame, it will go out the side.

Blast dissipates at a rate of V=4/3 π r 3 or appox 1.33x3.14x radius cubed at 1 the volume is 4.1762 cu in and at just 6" it is 816.5 cu in. This is skewed some on a revolver as the top strap, bottom of frame, cylinder face and barrel will direct more blast side ways. But, even if it is 50% less volume the increase rate per radius increases is still huge

Try this, make a tunnel out of card board, stick a revolver in it and shoot it. None of the blast will hit the cardboard at the top or the bottom, only the sides will have blast marks.

Plus, it you set up a piece of paper just 6 or 8" from the side of cylinder it will not be damaged, where at 1" it will be shredded.

I have fired several hundred rounds through the 45 colt carbine using fairly hot ammo and have never felt any pain what so ever. I do feel a tiny pit of light powder peppering on my face as it is closer to the gap than normal.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

Blast dissipates at a rate of V=4/3 π r 3 or appox 1.33x3.14x radius cubed at 1 the volume is 4.1762 cu in and at just 6" it is 816.5 cu in. This is skewed some on a revolver as the top strap, bottom of frame, cylinder face and barrel will direct more blast side ways. But, even if it is 50% less volume the increase rate per radius increases is still huge.

A math formula like that, is just plain dirty talk on a gun forum like this!

Ivan

 

[AJ]

Blast dissipates at a rate of V=4/3 π r 3 or appox 1.33x3.14x radius cubed at 1 the volume is 4.1762 cu in and at just 6" it is 816.5 cu in. This is skewed some on a revolver as the top strap, bottom of frame, cylinder face and barrel will direct more blast side ways. But, even if it is 50% less volume the increase rate per radius increases is still huge

A math formula like that, is just plain dirty talk on a gun forum like this!

Ivan

When going to Avionics School we took some trig and calculus. Never had to use it on the job. Now it is so far back in the memory banks that it has escaped!

 

[steelslaver]

Here is additional thought on the gap blast any particles coming though the gap have to be pretty small and that means light. So, while they may come through the gap with good velocity they will shed it pretty fast. While I happen to know for a fact that a piece of copper jacket shaved of will only break and stick in the skin from 4'. But that is off to the side about a ft and behind. No way that a piece shaved at the forcing cone can do a complete 180 directly to the rear. A pierced primer or a ruptured case is more apt to hit the shooters face with any real force 10" away than Powder particles have virtually no weight, becauce they can let the pressure travel around the firing pin/hammer and directly to the rear.

 

[steelslaver]

When going to Avionics School we took some trig and calculus. Never had to use it on the job. Now it is so far back in the memory banks that it has escaped!

I love math, algebra and geometry although they are not exact sciences like psychiatry.

 

[alwslate]

I love math, algebra and geometry although they are not exact sciences like psychiatry.

Woops, I think you got that backwards

 

[Tex1001]

I love math, algebra and geometry although they are not exact sciences like psychiatry.

You Sir, are a danger to yourself and all those around you.

As the owner of a small group of NAA revolvers, I am
impressed.
ETA:
I too went through elementary calculus in college. I then
changed to computer engineering.
Only ones and zeros, you know.

 

[steelslaver]

Well you can also code in hex instead of binary. I use hexidecimal to store pin numbers and create pass words. The earlier DTV cards used hex in their eprom and I had all the channels free, till the P4 cards came out.

But, you know what they say about binary? When it comes to binary, there are 10 kinds of people, those who understand it and those who don't.

 

[steelslaver]

I love math, algebra and geometry although they are not exact sciences like psychiatry.

Woops, I think you got that backwards

Na, its a joke my brothers and I like to tell.

 

[Dr Charlie]

Why? I'm sure you are having fun Reminds me of the saying ,"Because i can."

 

[dwh]

Well you can also code in hex instead of binary. I use hexidecimal to store pin numbers and create pass words. The earlier DTV cards used hex in their eprom and I had all the channels free, till the P4 cards came out.

But, you know what they say about binary? When it comes to binary, there are 10 kinds of people, those who understand it and those who don't.

Steelslaver, you're going cause me to have nightmares bring up Hexidecimal math. It was almost my downfall in electronics schoo

PS. when are you going to add a 22mag cylinder to your kit gun?

 

[steelslaver]

PS. when are you going to add a 22mag cylinder to your kit gun?

If I found one cheap, I would buy it. But, I have never been that impressed by the 22 mag. A 22lr will kill rabbit sized game with less damage and when you go to deer sized animals head shots are all that work with either. I would build something based on the 22 Harvey Kay Chuck or the Jet before I purposely built a 22 mag.

I only have 1 22 mag cylinder. I fit it to my model 18.