My handgun is obsolete? Why is that?

All 8 of my 3rd gennies are functioning at "top shelf" level. The great part is they don't usually fail unless we as S&W 3rd Gen folk don't take care of them. As I've done in the past few years, picked up low prices, 410, 910, 915, and a few 5906's "ugly" police trade-ins for parts. If I ever need the levers, sears, pins, and barrels. Most (9mm) parts can interchange with 9 and 40. When you see them for cheap, buy em for the parts. And, even those inexpensive ugly ones will run with a good cleaning and a wolf spring or two.

My point is that at $200 to $250 a pop, the parts base alone will come back to you.
 
BAM-BAM said:
I had one of the PC .45 CQB..... for a short while.....could not stand the "Billboard" on the side.......Why does the PC trash up a perfectly good gun .....(passed on a Recon for the same reason).............traded it for the PC DPA 5906........

Just glad they don't have a "Rambo" Model..........LOL

Don't get me started on PC "ported" concealed carry revolvers......

To me the ultimate for concealed carry is the 3913/14 platform.....not to big not to small..not to heavy not to light...... full finger grip even with the 7rd steel based mags...... works 100% .........and while it should not matter......

It looks cooool doing it........it is the gun that should have replaced Bond's PPK.........popularity and cost would both have gone through the roof.
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Would buy "Rambo model"
 
Iggy said:
S&W no longer makes parts.
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This is all is mean. S&W does not continue to make/sell parts for them. What are the odds the gun will fail under occasional use? A gun smith can either find part or make them.
 
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Shadow1006 said:
The hell you say!
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My 10xx series guns are as obsolete as that lifeless cartridge they shoot so well!

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18DAI said:
I noticed while looking at some parts list that my two most carried handguns, the 4516 and 4513TSW are listed, by their manufacturer as "obsolete".

So, what makes my carry guns obsolete? Is it their smooth DA trigger pulls? Their crisp single action trigger pull?

Maybe it is their reliability. Flawless function round after round with no breakage or need for return shipping to the manufacturer. Perhaps it is their pleasing asthetics. They stand out in a sea of ugly polymer guns.

Probably it is their all metal framed construction and use of a hammer to drive a firing pin. Ancient methods and materials........

Then.....in contrast, what makes a 100 year old handgun design "current technology" and the "choice of professionals" (even though no manufacturer can seem to get one with a sub 4 inch barrel to run reliably......and one or two makers have trouble making a 5 inch that isn't a single shot gun ;) ) yet a different design from 1989, just 25 years ago, is considered obsolete? Why is that? Regards 18DAI
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It's a business decision, plain and simple. S&W does not want to bother making their own DA/SA design any more when the make bucketfuls more money with their striker fired pistols.

If I was in charge of S&W I would have reached the same decision.
 
I had a T-shirt made that says "Unplanned Obsolescence". I haven't worn it because of a sad family situation some of you know about, but the sentiment fits: I didn't intend to become obsolete.

Planned obsolescence is a manufacturing philosophy that has been with us for a long time now. More and more power tools are throwaway items that no one will repair. Electronic stuff, like so many other things, increasingly is either not repairable or so ruinously expensive to fix that it isn't worth it.

So far guns don't seem to fall completely into that pattern, but S&W deciding the 3rd generation pistols are obsolete and they won't support them is a long step in that direction.

And ISCS Yoda, I call them "automatics" in conversation. And occasionally on this forum, just to see how many people will correct me. :D
 
shouldazagged said:
So far guns don't seem to fall completely into that pattern, but S&W deciding the 3rd generation pistols are obsolete and they won't support them is a long step in that direction.

And ISCS Yoda, I call them "automatics" in conversation. And occasionally on this forum, just to see how many people will correct me. :D
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Being "semi-automatic" always seemed like being "semi-pregnant." It either loads automatically, or it doesn't. :p

But I digress.

Modern America. The label *is* the thing, rather than describing a thing correctly. To my POV here, "obsolete" just means "they ain't makin' too many of the parts for it any more" and the fact that they choose to misuse the word and thus mislabel the firearm, does not mean that *I* am stuck with *their* inability to use English correctly.:rolleyes:

But I'm a minority in that regard... :D
 
Obsolete huh? Maybe S&W is just outta touch!

Been away for awhile, hung out of at the SIG forum, nice place, but wipe your feet before you enter Para's house, and mind your manners!
Been playin with plastic too, a 1st gen Glock17, 3rd gen 26, HK P2000 .40 LEM, hell even an XDm.45!
Know what? They don't do nothin my old "obsolete" 2nd and 3rd Gen Smiths won't do! And I will admit the H&K is put together like a precision watch!
Also noticed that the Pennslyvania State Police dumped their Glock 21 gen4s for SIGs P227, and a dept. In Ohio did the same. Last time I looked SEALs were still issued SIG P226s and the regular military still carried Berettas.ODD 1 does issue G22s and keeps match grade 1911s on hand.

My point? Metal framed autos are still abundant, being issued and used with hi round counts, are still viable carry pieces.

So yeah, S&W is out to make a dollar, the AR market is flat, the panic buyers are pretty much done (unless your an AK fan!).
So if S&W deem my pieces as obsolete, I'm cool with it, as I'm sure SIG and Beretta will take my money too. And for my polymer needs there's only one H&K!
 
Doing a good bit of thread necromancing tonight but...felt I had to "bump" it do to not commenting on Gunhobbit's post on mammoths. Thanks for the laugh I needed that. :D
 
What amazes me is how marketing departments have convinced people that ARs are reliable (if they were, there wouldn't be an entire industry devoted to keeping them from pooping the bed) and that Tupperware framed pistols have good trigger pulls.

I like ARs, but not the gas system.
I like some Tupperware pistols, but their triggers can't touch any of my steel or alloy framed TDA, DAO, or SA autopistols.
 
Jaymo said:
What amazes me is how marketing departments have convinced people that ARs are reliable (if they were, there wouldn't be an entire industry devoted to keeping them from pooping the bed) and that Tupperware framed pistols have good trigger pulls.

I like ARs, but not the gas system.
I like some Tupperware pistols, but their triggers can't touch any of my steel or alloy framed TDA, DAO, or SA autopistols.
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Not much fact behind this statement.... no surprise who likes this one tthough... hahaha..
 
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