My latest two

[seasoldier85]

Hello All,
I don't know where the time goes, haven't been here since '06!
I have a concern about two revolvers I just picked up. Basically I'd like to figure out if I gave the seller a fair price. He's selling some inherited guns, and while I'm not an expert, I do know a fair amount about guns in general. Unfortunately, my perspective on value may be a bit dated. One is a model 27-4, 6". It displays hammer push off, and had a "bind" in the action. Reasonable wear and a little dirty. The second one is a 629-2, recessed, not pinned. The barrel has been ported (possibly by his father who was a hobby machinist), and sports Hogue Monogrips (ugh). I fixed the bind in the 27 (strain screw was backed out) and gave them both a good cleaning. They both have faint impressions of case heads on the recoil shield. Thoughts on value for both guns?

 

[Bald1]

That's a funky looking port job. I'm guessing that will affect value negatively. I have a 6" 629-2 that is Magna Ported and I love it. Some don't care for it. It'll be interesting to see what guys way more knowledgeable than me think.

 

[Marksman]

I have a M/629 4" no dash that's Magna Ported and I have no complaints.

 

[seasoldier85]

Yeah, I wasn't too excited about the ports or the grips. With that and the issues with the 27, I threw out a number. He thought a minute and accepted. He's a super nice guy that knows nothing about firearms. I was brought along as "the expert" (now that's funny), and I offered what I figured they were worth. I just don't want to think I ripped him off. If it turns out I should have paid more, I'll have no problem making it right with him.

 

[pasound]

That ring doesn't look like real wear. All my revolvers have an impression on the shield after a lot of shooting. Unless it is actually leaving a mark in the metal, that will sometimes clean up with solvent and a brass brush.

 

[Hawg Rider]

Welcome back...where have you been for 17 years? You've missed a lot while you were gone. Seriously though, you have returned to the Forum with a couple of puzzlers. The 629-2 is a great revolver, but how the "porting" affects the price really depends upon the buyer (especially when the porting was not done by Mag-Na-Port). Asking prices for 629-2s seem to be around $1200, but the porting and Hogues might hurt that value a little. But 4" bbls. are probably the most desirable of the 629-2s. The 27-4 is difficult to assess, and to be honest, I've never seen one! They were only made in 1988 and 1989 (until the 27-5 was introduced in 1990). Lots of 27-2s and 27-3s out there, and asking prices are heading towards $2K with box and goodies. 27-4s aren't seen often...but I don't think that makes them rare or particularly valuable. My guess would be in the $900 range if it's wearing its original stocks. Did you fix the hammer "push off" issue? If not, you may want to have a gunsmith take a look and fix that potentially dangerous condition. I don't claim to be an expert on Model 27s, so hopefully some of our more knowledgeable Forum members will be along to chime in on values. Both of your revolvers should be great shooters, and hopefully you got a good deal on them. Enjoy!

 

[seasoldier85]

Thanks Hawg Rider. I'll just come out and say it, I gave $1,500 for both. My concerns were the push off on the 27 which is a repair beyond my capabilities, and the mysterious bind in the action, (which was easily resolved once I removed the stocks and saw the strain screw). As for the 629, the Hogues and porting hurt it's value in my opinion. I had no idea what he had for sale until I got there, and this was a do it now deal, so I had no time for research.

 

[H Richard]

I would have concern on the 27-4, the Push Off. To me that indicates either a trigger job that has now worn past limits, or a non-gunsmith trigger job, and not quite proper, possibly an accident waiting to happen. I'd take the value of a decent comparable model, and deduct about 25% from that. The 629 Porting (not factory or Magnaport), would cut that guns value be at least $25% also, and will limit the number of prospective buyers who would other wise be interested.

You didn't get too hurt on the price you paid, but there won't be much increase over that you could sell them for.

 

[Fishinfool]

It breaks down to $750 per gun, and given the description and circumstances, I think that is fair to both of you. I know I wouldn't have paid more for either. Did you test the 27 for push off again? Tightening the strain screw might have cured it?

Larry

 

[haroldhurricane]

Magna Port Job

Hello I have a really nice 19-4 that was Magna Ported at some time in it's past. Since I was looking for a shooter Mod 19 I bought it even though I knew the Magna Porting would affect the value. I bought it on Gunbroker and the bidding was not all that enthusiastic and I got it for $629 which turned out to be a great price. The auction pictures were dark and didn't show much so I was kind of taking a chance but his past customers were saying things like my gun was way better than the pics showed, I am really pleased with my new gun stuff like that so that encouraged me to win the auction. When it came it turned out be really nice which is what I was hoping for. Whether it is good or bad I don't know but it also has a ball detent system also maybe done by Magna Port?? Also I am pretty sure it has had a trigger job because it has the best action of any Mod 19 I have shot even those I bought brand new in 1979-1980. All in all for my purposes this gun worked out really well and for a good price. Actually the bluing is really good for a gun that has been used a bit but probably low round count.

 

[seasoldier85]

Tightening the strain screw fixed the main spring/ rebound interference (the "bind"), but did nothing for the push off. I feel better about the deal now, thanks. As for re-sale value, well...I haven't been able to sell a gun yet! ��
Regarding the "push off", I understand the safety issue with respect to single action. Is there a concern with double action?

 

[Narragansett]

Hi, and welcome back. Hope you stay.

I would not want either of them. That is to say that I am afraid that they have both been tinkered with. Lord only knows if the 629 has been tinkered with internally, beyond the snorkel job on the barrel.

Now having said that, I would not assign more than 700 to the 629 in working checked out order.

The 27 in perfect working order maybe 800.

I am just scared these have been Bubba'd.

You have not said what you have given for them?

 

[seasoldier85]

Thank you Narragansett, I'll be staying for a while. I know enough to be dangerous, and the 629 internals don't appear to be fooled with. I stated in an earlier post that I paid $1500 for both. I did, however, fail to mention that the 27 came with the original box, paperwork, tools, etc. This man's Father was a prolific collector, reloader, shooter. Maybe a tinkerer too? In any event, even if I have to have the 27 worked on by a competent gunsmith, I could list hundreds of ways I've spent my money and regretted it

 

[jcelect]

Tightening the strain screw fixed the main spring/ rebound interference (the "bind"), but did nothing for the push off. I feel better about the deal now, thanks. As for re-sale value, well...I haven't been able to sell a gun yet! ��
Regarding the "push off", I understand the safety issue with respect to single action. Is there a concern with double action?

DA uses a different sear! The SA sear has probably been stoned beyond repair which means your only recourse is to replace the hammer and trigger.
jcelect