My new nothing special Model 64s

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I figure that we always get to see pics of the real "GEE WHIZ" Smiths (including a couple of my contributions) so today I decided to post a couple of pics of the "nothing special" 64's that I picked up on Friday.
My buddy had developed a real hankering for a Glock 19 to have as his SHTF gun so when I told him that a Police Supply down in Richmond had a ad with a bunch of trade in G19s at a real good price he said "lets go"
What I did not tell him was they also had a bunch of Model 64s in 2" listed. I have been looking for a 2" 64 for quite a while and despite the fact that thousands and thousands were made for Police departments just about everywhere very few showed up in my neck of the woods for sale.
After he got a look at the 64s he ended up buying both a new gen 4 G19 and a 64-6 2" and I ended up coming home with the 64-4 2" I had been looking for and a 64-5 4" HB round butt just because.
Both had the generic Butler Creek/Uncle Mikes grips so after I got them home and did a thorough cleaning and inspection I rounded up a couple of sets of round butt service grips for them.
Enjoy
Chip King
 

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Nice Guns Chip! A 2" 64 is on my short list. I really like the 4" Heavy Profile Barrel and Round Butt configuration. I once had a 65 set up like that and it was supprisingly easy to carry.
 
Thanks Guys. For those of who are interested these are the folks who have them. $349 or if you buy 2 $329 each. There were still a bunch of the 2" 64s there on Fri.
TOWN POLICE SUPPLY
3541 COURTHOUSE RD
RICHMOND, VA 23236
804-745-6433
Best
Chip King
 
Gotta love those 64s...here, in the Atlanta area, a local shop/store had a number of 64s in 4-inch on Saturday. They were not in too bad of shape. They were tagged at $349.
 
Where are all these great 64s coming from? LE agencies went to semi-autos 20 years ago and earlier. Hard to imagine all of these revolvers sitting around somewhere.

Anyone?

Kaaskop49
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Nice! I picked-up my 64-4 snub last month for the same $349. It was part of a large shipment from the Puerto Rican Police that included a bunch of 10s, 65s, Troopers, Official Police, etc. ranging from the late 60's to mid-90's.
 
Nice guns. I actually like my lock 4 inch 64 rb very much! Mine has factory rubber grips.

And I was hot for a 2 inch 64 a couple of years ago...but got distracted by other guns! :)
 
kaaskop49 said:
Where are all these great 64s coming from? LE agencies went to semi-autos 20 years ago and earlier. Hard to imagine all of these revolvers sitting around somewhere.

Anyone?

Kaaskop49
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It doesn't sound like the OP's situation, but many come from overseas departments. I've bought two Australian police surplus S&W revolvers in the last year and a half, and a police surplus model 10 (which I have sold) that came from South America maybe 3 or 4 years ago.

The overseas guns usually have import marks, but won't if S&W buys them back or takes them as trades on new guns.
 
attn Jim NNN

Hi Jim, thanks for your reply and for shedding a little light. As I said in my original post, I would have expected this situation 20 years ago or so when agencies transitioned to semi autos. Hope someone else chimes in; it's not like there are 100 or so guns, but multiple lots.

Kaaskop49
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As I said in my original post, I would have expected this situation 20 years ago or so when agencies transitioned to semi autos.
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Bud's used to have well used police surplus model 10's - lots of them - up until recently, but now their surplus guns are mostly (entirely) semi-automatic pistols. I'm guessing Security companies (like Pinkerton's) may also be a source for revolvers, as demands for security work may not require semi-autos. Like I said, that's just a guess.

This is what I wonder about - who buys a brand new model 64 nowadays? S&W still makes them, but they list for close to 700 bucks. The adjustable sight version (model 67) is over 700 bucks. Although they are K frames, they really aren't part of the "classic" series, as far as I can tell, so I don't think they are marketed to collectors like a "classic" model 40 or model 29 would be. But they're somewhat obsolete as professional weapons (not a put down - I have a recent lock model 64 that I like a lot.)

Smith and Wesson's designation for these models is "Home protection/Professional/Duty", but even at discounted prices, most professional security companies could get a lot more fire power for the same or even less money. Is it possible security companies don't want to give their guards too much fire power, being that they usually don't have the same level of training as law enforcement? I honestly don't know. Nevertheless, it seems possible that there still might be a security market for these guns.
 
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Jim NNN said:
Smith and Wesson's designation for these models is "Home protection/Professional/Duty", but even at discounted prices, most professional security companies could get a lot more fire power for the same or even less money. Is it possible security companies don't want to give their guards too much fire power, being that they usually don't have the same level of training as law enforcement? I honestly don't know. Nevertheless, it seems possible that there still might be a security market for these guns.
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I think I can answer that..........I've been in Security since I got out of police work in the late 90's. Most of it has to do with money! Minimal training is required for armed officers who carry revolvers, and liability is limited since there is no "spray & pray" mentality that some folks get with autopistols. In most cases officers are armed more as a visible deterrent than anything else, no one wants officers shooting anyone unless it's an unavoidable event (as it should be). Under-trained officers with semiauto guns tend to be more inclined to shoot since ammo supply and reloading are less critical issues.

Revolver training is a lot cheaper, the guns are cheaper, and simplicity is an asset. A lot of the 64's now on the market are from security and (foreign) police departments that have upgraded to semiautos. I'm not sure where the 2" 64's are coming from, I don't see many out there!

My current position requires me to carry a 4" M-64, and the trigger on the issued gun was so good right out of the (used) box that I went out and bought two more just like it. I recently had one 4" barrel replaced with a 3-incher, and now it's my Perfect Packing Pistol. But after seeing this thread logic is telling me I have a 4 and a 3, so it's painfully obvious I now need a two-inch.........right?



 
attn papajohn428

Hi papa! So the trigger on the 64 was so good that you bought 2 more... Can't argue with that line of reasoning! My 2 casino-issue 64s have especially sweet triggers. I did almost the same when I bought my 2nd 637 Wyatt model. 'Cause it was there.

Seriously, seems like your 64s are round butt guns. Is that original or did you have a gunsmith R-B the grip frames? Gotta know. Best wishes and good shooting.

Kaaskop49
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papajohn428 said:
I think I can answer that..........I've been in Security since I got out of police work in the late 90's. Most of it has to do with money! Minimal training is required for armed officers who carry revolvers, and liability is limited since there is no "spray & pray" mentality that some folks get with autopistols. In most cases officers are armed more as a visible deterrent than anything else, no one wants officers shooting anyone unless it's an unavoidable event (as it should be). Under-trained officers with semiauto guns tend to be more inclined to shoot since ammo supply and reloading are less critical issues.
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Thanks for the insights. That explains a lot. I was a security guard more than 30 years ago, but at that time, there wasn't much of a revolver vs. semi-auto decision to be made - everyone, even our city police dept., carried revolvers.
 
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