My Rant! TIP jars at fast food joints!

sigp220.45 said:
I didn't say I did it. I never bothered, but I know plenty of guys who did.

If you can't afford a couple of bucks for a tip you should put a frozen pizza in the oven. The delivery guy usually doesn 't get the buck they add on as a delivery charge.
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Glad to hear you are not one of those people.

What about the poor people that want to buy a pizza for their kids that lives check to check? Is there not compassion for those that have to save up for a long time just to afford the price of a pizza, but can't afford the extra money to give someone that is already paid to do the delivery of said pizza?
Not everyone in Louisiana is rich, but most would like a pizza every once in a while to treat the kids.

My poor button. ;)
 
Sorry, but when I tip a fast food worker, all I'm doing is subsidizing corporate profits. If the workers require higher wages to keep working there, then that's the business owners problem and not mine. (I'm obviously ignoring that this might have been a franchise owned by some guy losing his rear-end).
 
Ah yes, you've swallowed the blue pill of American mythology. Our civilization has even built constructions to try to reinforce the mythology--constructions such as: more education=more pay, hard work begets rewards, people who are rich are to be idolized, and the poor are deserving of their plight and not of sympathy or compassion. We desperately cling to our mythology and repeat to others anything that helps to prove it and dismiss anything that disproves it. "Confirmation Bias," if you will. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, we cling to our mythology.
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Man,what a bunch of ****!! Are you a politician? You fail to offer even one example of the "overwhelming evidence" you suggest is out there.

more education=more pay
It certainly does or at least greatly increases ones chances at a better and more skilled job.I don't know of anyone who became a doctor or lawyer with just a high school education.

hard work begets rewards
I certainly benefitted from this myself with promotions or bigger raises than those around me.

people who are rich are to be idolized
This goes against one of the ten commandments.I don't idolize any man for his worth.I can respect him if he made his wealth honestly.I can learn from him if I aspired to the same lofty goals.

the poor are deserving of their plight and not of sympathy or compassion
There is plenty of sympathy and compassion for those less fortunate.Surprisingly it's even there for those who spend their lives wallowing in their failures with no attempt to better themselves even when help is offered.

If this is mythology in your eyes then so be it! It's your idealogy that keeps people chained up with no hope by telling them that education and hard work is for saps.

I really starting to enjoy this...Normally I would need a joint in my mouth to tolerate this nonsense!
 
After thinking about it I guess Tipping is as much for me as the server. Unless the service was downright rotten they get a tip. The better the service the better the tip. Kind of gives me a good feeling.

Also I was at a Subway the other day. I ordered the lunch meat trio on whole wheat bread. What do you know? It tasted like lunch meat. I've had their tuna salad sandwich and it tasted like tuna, likewise the sliced turkey. Now if it didn't taste like lunch meat or tuna etc I'd say it was bad. It ain't.
If you are gonna call it bad on a public forum then justify your statement.
 
RonJ said:
After thinking about it I guess Tipping is as much for me as the server. Unless the service was downright rotten they get a tip. The better the service the better the tip. Kind of gives me a good feeling.

Also I was at a Subway the other day. I ordered the lunch meat trio on whole wheat bread. What do you know? It tasted like lunch meat. I've had their tuna salad sandwich and it tasted like tuna, likewise the sliced turkey. Now if it didn't taste like lunch meat or tuna etc I'd say it was bad. It ain't.
If you are gonna call it bad on a public forum then justify your statement.
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I know I never badmouthed the food.I use to buy 2 footlongs thinking I'd save one for later.Didn't happen! At 63 yrs old I can still pack away the food if it's good.Before I die I'd like to speak to the clown who determines portion sizes on packages.
 
I have always been in the habit of putting a buck or two into the jar figuring the kids make next to nothing, and as such every extra buck is helpful. That is until my H.S. age son took a job at a local pizza joint and explained to me that the counter girls pocketed all the extra $ and did not share with the folks back in the kitchen. That said I tend to ask now if the $ is split between the entire staff, with mixed answers, the best being "our manager gets the tip jar".

As to the original message, a tip is 100% the choice of the person giving it, for the kid to toss the change in the jar is unacceptable.
 
ladder13 said:
I bet you all tip well at Hooters. ;)
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The last time I went to Hooter's, the waitress was absolutely terrible. Our drinks ran out, and when we told her, they still didn't come. They finally brought my friend another beer right when he finished his meal. He told them to take it back, he was finished and didn't need it now. We weren't alone, two tables close to us talked about how bad she was, and one of those was a table of young guys she was flirting with. The only tip that bimbo got from us was the .14 that she short-changed me. I don't know if she felt robbed after we left, but I sure did. I will never go back. Oh, and this happened early on a Sunday afternoon, it wasn't crowded.
 
RonJ said:
Sorry but YOU are the rude one. Unless the kid is a grease ball with boogers hanging out then he probably deserves at least the coin from your change.
If you are too poor or too chintzy to give a tip then say say Pardon me but I need that back. People in the service industry are stomped on all too often.
Get bullied in HS? Taking it out on the service people? All ya gotta do is yell MANAGER! Make you feel like big ****? Probably!
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You are the one who is wrong. A tip that is taken is not a tip it is theft. The one receiving the service is the one who determines it a tip is deserved and how much it should be not the service provider. Had your total been under $10 and the cashier put the rest of the $20 in the in the tip jar would you still feel the same?
 
wbraswell said:
The last time I went to Hooter's, the waitress was absolutely terrible. Our drinks ran out, and when we told her, they still didn't come. They finally brought my friend another beer right when he finished his meal. He told them to take it back, he was finished and didn't need it now. We weren't alone, two tables close to us talked about how bad she was, and one of those was a table of young guys she was flirting with. The only tip that bimbo got from us was the .14 that she short-changed me. I don't know if she felt robbed after we left, but I sure did. I will never go back. Oh, and this happened early on a Sunday afternoon, it wasn't crowded.
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I've never been in one. Walked by 2 last month in Fl, one in Clearwater Beach and one in Johns Pass. My wife gave me the evil eye, so I moved on. :D Besides I'm not one for fried or greasy food.
 
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First, as I've said, I dislike tips as they have become expected and they expect you to tip on ridiculous mark-ups for wine/... If one HAS to tip, it really should be based on the amount of work and service involved, not the cost of the goods. One couple we go out with occasionally is, well, she can be a REAL ..... and I typically feel sorry for the wait staff and try to cushion the blow ;)

Pay the people what they are worth, adjust your prices accordingly, and be done with it. I've traveled a LOT both domestic and international and the service is the best in places where "tipping" is not the norm.

That said, I AM a good tipper when the service is good BUT I tip on

  1. Service - with the minimal being solidly met expectations
  2. The pre-tax amount of the bill
  3. Removal of any outrageous mark-ups (if a bottle of wine should cost $10 and they charge $30, the cork comes out just the same).
  4. If I use a coupon, the retail price, not the discounted price.
 
ladder13 said:
I've never been in one. Walked by 2 last month in Fl, one in Clearwater Beach and one in Johns Pass. My wife gave me the evil eye, so I moved on. :D Besides I'm not one for fried or greasy food.
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I've never been to one either. I have had their wings at catered events & was less than impressed. Give me Mango Habanero & Caribbean Jerk from Buffalo Wild Wings!:cool::cool::cool:
 
This is truly wrong!

I tip rather well based on the comments from servers and bartenders who have been tipped by me. In particular, if you properly tip your bartender you WILL get better/quicker service when the bar is five deep.

All that said, this is what truly frosts me, will never get a tip, and should never, ever occur...A TIP JAR AT A HOSTED FUNCTION LIKE A WEDDING. :eek:

I was at a fairly high falutin' event hosted by dear friends at a extremely high end venue. I guarantee the hosts' costs included a service charge yet the bartenders had tip jars at their station. When the hostess saw this she was fairly apoplectic and personally removed every jar whilst chastising the bartenders.

She explained to them that she and her husband were hosts and that meant NO ONE else paid for anything. Period. :) I totally agree.

Be safe.
 
jdh said:
You are the one who is wrong. A tip that is taken is not a tip it is theft. The one receiving the service is the one who determines it a tip is deserved and how much it should be not the service provider. Had your total been under $10 and the cashier put the rest of the $20 in the in the tip jar would you still feel the same?
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You always have the option to ask for your change back. If you don't get it then you should yell for the manager.
 
Looking back on my original post it reminded me of an episode of "Two and a half Men".

Charlie is plastered as usual and Berta comes in to say she's leaving for a few days and wants her pay.Charlie pulls out his money and asks how much he owes her.Berta grabs a handful and says "This will cover it!".

A few minutes later Jake comes in and says he's leaving and reminds Charlie he still owes him money for a pizza.Charlie again takes out his cash and asks Jake How much he owes him.Of course Jake also grabs a fistful of money and says "This should cover it!".

Given the opportunity and asked to be totally honest I wonder how many servers could honestly answer what the value of a tip would be to the service they render.I have learned over the years that what one thinks of themselves can vary greatly from what others think.

Before anyone thinks I'm biased I would also say that some people don't fairly judge the service they receive.
 
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My wife and I went into a local sports bar/ restarant for lunch the other day. The bill was $30.30 and I gave our server a $50.00 bill. She brought back 19 dollar bills and kept the 70 cents change. Bringing back my change all in dollar bills is a sure way to get their tip cut. I always tip 20% of the total bill, but there are exceptions.

I have told waitresses that if they bring me all one dollar bills in change it could seriously affect their tip.

I'm not really cheap, but I can be grumpy.
 
Keeping the 70 cents change is a sure way to guarantee that was the TOTAL tip she got.

Just out of curiosity, if you've ever gone into a place where either you got lousy service, or the waitress kept your change, have you ever told the manager, "I'd like ANOTHER waitress"?
 
Drive thru coffee shops are famous for leering at you when you expect all your change back. One technique is to take a long time to make change. I wait patiently. Then, this one. A local Chinese food place would routinely make errors in making change. I count my change always and these guys would never get correct change. Always in their favor. Just a couple of cents each time, but never, ever in my favor. When I would point out that the arithmetic didn't add up, they would give you that look, and with an attitude, make it right. I stopped going there, cause, even for 2 cents, it bugged the heck out of me.
Count your change, folks, always.
 
This is opposite...

This is opposite your rant but the same point still applies. If I want to give a tip I will and if I don't I won't. We went to a restaurant (not fast food, but an upscale soup/sandwich place) and when we paid with our card and got our ticket, we asked, "Isn't there a place on here to put a tip?" 'No' was the answer. "Then do you have a tip jar?"......"No". "Then can we leave a tip?" "They don't allow us to do that." Then there are the businesses now that take the tips from the wait staff. This world is getting more screwed up by the minute.
 
I do leave tips, but I would like to state for the record that I hate tipping culture and the whole concept. The local hole in the wall place gives me a plate piled with food and fills my drink up 5 times while I'm there and they're busting their ***, while some fancy place that costs 3 times as much but gives me half the service, I'm supposed to magically tip them more just because the food costs more? Eck, that always grated on my nerves.
 
In Europe, they just add 18% to all tabs and you don't have to tip unless you want to leave a little something extra, usually a very small amount. It's called VAT, they pay their people reasonably well and the VAT pays for employee's retirement like our Social Security and the medical equivalent of Medicare. I loved it, it's simple.
 
I can't believe this!

115 posts, and not one reference to the conversation between Joe Cabot and Mr. Pink in the restaurant scene from "Reservoir Dogs"!
 
diamonback68 said:
In Europe, they just add 18% to all tabs and you don't have to tip unless you want to leave a little something extra, usually a very small amount. It's called VAT, they pay their people reasonably well and the VAT pays for employee's retirement like our Social Security and the medical equivalent of Medicare. I loved it, it's simple.
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I agree but,

In some of the places I've been the tips go to the owner. Keeping them for yourself can get you terminated.

I kinda thought that sucked.
 
RonJ said:
You always have the option to ask for your change back. If you don't get it then you should yell for the manager.
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What ever works for you. Throw in a hissy fit if it make you feel better.

The point being it is my decision whether to tip and how much not for the server to help themselves. BTW, my first job was as tips only grocery bagger. I did quite well without having to beg, demand, or steal the customers change.
 
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DeathGrip said:
In some of the places I've been the tips go to the owner. Keeping them for yourself can get you terminated.
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Of course they go to the owner and he has to pay them forward to the Government just like our sales taxes etc. That's how the Government gets the money to pay their equivalent of SS and socialized medicine. If the waiter keeps them, he/she is stealing from the government.
 
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diamonback68 said:
Of course they go to the owner and he has to pay them forward to the Government just like our sales taxes etc. That's how the Government gets the money to pay their equivalent of SS and socialized medicine. If the waiter keeps them, he/she is stealing from the government.
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I'd bet most of those owners don't report much of the cash tips they get.

Taxes. Its mans nature to avoid them.
 
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