My reason for joining the S&W forum.

"The IZh shot too much when I pulled the trigger, like two or three times with one pull!! It shoots well, now. For some time it had the doubling problem, which is common in the 35m. I made a tool to counterbore the bolt face deeper to increase the headspace. That fixed the problem."

That's information you should have kept to yourself. I advise never mentioning that to anyone. Once a machine gun, always a machine gun. You may wish to delete your posting.

It was never a machine gun. It was malfunctioning semiauto.
If a 1911 breaks the top of the sear off and goes full auto, it can be repaired.
 
I think that's a beautiful revolver and its amazing that you have something like that to remember you father by. I think the engraving is beautiful and prefer to compliment you on your revolver and welcome you to the forum, rather than point out the minor imperfections, but that's just me. :)
 
If ANY gun fires more than one round with a single trigger pull, it becomes a NFA weapon - like it or not.

I disagree. It is a legal weapon in need of repair. I am not saying that charges couldn't be filed if it appreared as though the owner had manipulated it to fire that way or was intentionally not repairing it.

If you can't register it as a machine gun, its not an NFA weapon. Since it was made after May 19, 1986 and the owner, I assume is not a Title 2 Manufacturer, it's not an NFA weapon. It's just broke and needs to be fixed.
 
You are one lucky devil to have such an heirloom from your Dad and be able to shoot it too.
Welcome to the forum from Florida's Gulf Islands......er Gator country.......
 
If ANY gun fires more than one round with a single trigger pull, it becomes a NFA weapon - like it or not.
So you believe ANY semiauto that malfunctions or breaks and runs full auto cannot be repaired and must be turned in as a non-registered NFA?
The code does not say that.
You are saying a stuck firing pin created an illegal machine gun every time it has ever happened. I've seen them stick, and the guns were simply repaired.
I've seen a 1911 break a sear. A new sear was fitted.
 
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Absolutely it's a NFA weapon if you are caught with it. Think on it for about thirty seconds and you will clearly understand why. There is no exemption in the NFA for "malfunctioning" semiautos. The typical approach to be followed for a semiauto which is multiple firing is to fix it and KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!! BATFE has a history of prosecuting such situations if they know about them.
 
Nice thread derail, guys.....:(

Anyway, welcome to the Forum 63expert!

That is a beautiful legacy you've got there. I might suggest that you look at some grips by one of our own forum members, Keith Brown. His workmanship is of the highest quality, and would look just right on you dad's M27, imho.

Here's a search link for you:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/search...b9lchnk&cof=FORID:9&q=Keith+Brown+grips&sa=Go

Thank you for sharing a beautiful M27 with us!
 
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if you don't know who or where the gun was engraved, there might be a signature somewhere hidden in the engraving. would take a magnifying glass to see it if it's there and it could be anywhere in the engraving. it looks very nice. whoever did it had some talent. any chance he could have returned it to smith for engraving after it was built?
 
Thanks for all the kind words guys. As far as a select fire
IZh-35m I'm not so worried. The pistol is correct now, and the number of 35m's with doubling problems are many. If this were the point of ATF they could set up shop at Camp Perry and arrest everyone who had a slamfire.



if you don't know who or where the gun was engraved, there might be a signature somewhere hidden in the engraving. would take a magnifying glass to see it if it's there and it could be anywhere in the engraving. it looks very nice. whoever did it had some talent. any chance he could have returned it to smith for engraving after it was built?

I really do wish I knew who did the engraving, but as I stated I'm pretty sure my dad had it done in Southeast Asia while he was stationed there, along with a Pre-'64 Model 70 that has similar engraving. I remember shooting full power .357 in the Smith when I was a kid and thinking "Holy Smokes!!!". With 38 light target loads it is a total pussycat.
 
I'm with Saxon: that gun needs to be wearing diamond Magnas.

Even for shooting, I'd replace the Hogues with a set of Ropers in walnut. Much more period-correct for that gun. They may not help you shoot better, but you'll sure look good shooting it:-)

I bet our fathers were about the same age & he had the engraving done early 60s. I have my dad's custom Mauser .270 which has a jeweled bolt.
 
It was never a machine gun. It was malfunctioning semiauto.
If a 1911 breaks the top of the sear off and goes full auto, it can be repaired.


If it were a Class III weapon, ATF could sure pad their arrest stats by staking out National Match courses.
I've observed lots of criminals packing malfunctioning 1911s & M1As.

A 1911 gone full-auto is pretty dad-gum scary!
 

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