Nasty rumor at local G/S

[silent wolf]

I was at our local gun store today and purchased a M&P40 and while I was waiting another customer had asked for 9mm ammo and they were told no more 9's in the store and they didn't know when they would get more due to Homeland securities need. Thats when it went all but silent. According to the g/s homeland security has an order in for 9 billion rds. Thats right he said 9 billion and not 9 million rds. You should have seen some of the faces of the people in the store, it was like shear panic for some of them. Could you imagine if this was true. It would fly off the shelf even faster and would bring a primo price as well. Well due to the rumor here goes prices and empty shelves again.

 

[Firehouse]

I wish people would confirm their rumors before spreading them.

Winchester to Deliver 200 Million 40-Cal. Rounds to Homeland Security

 

[silent wolf]

There goes my new 40cal, I guess I can use it for a paperweight along with the 9mm.

 

[Faulkner]

In the long run, the more ammo the manufacturers make the cheaper it will be. It's all good.

 

[Spotteddog]

What Mr. Faulkner said.
I look at every round produced and purchased at this point as a positive.

 

[murphydog]

I suspect this rumor, even if partially true, must be exaggerated. DHS primarily (but not exclusively) uses the .40. The DoD has a big need for 9 mm, but probably not as large as .223 or even .308. Nine billion rounds of 9 mm would use nearly the world's primer production for an entire year, and would supply 9000 rounds each for a million M9s, M10s and any other issue 9 mm.

Still, the rumor will probably bring prices up again...

 

[Smokester653]

I hate gunstore talk. Most of it is just the rambleings of those that don't have a clue. I go into a local gunstore all the time and the rumors and innuindos (hope I spelled that right) border on the insane. I wouldn't worry to much I'm seeing a good amount of all calibers in my local.

 

[redlevel]

I was in a Walmart yesterday. They had several 100 packs of 9mm, a bunch of .40, and one box of 50 WWB .45 hollowpoints. I bought the .45s. Throughout this shortage, for at least the last year, I don't believe I have checked a Wmart counter that didn't have .40 cal, and usually .357 sig. My local shop probably has 20,000 9mm on hand.

 

[yaktamer]

Funny thing is, at the Sportsman's Warehouse here the ONLY handgun ammo typically in stock is .40 cal, and there's a ton of it.

 

[Raspy]

Different calibers seem to come and go around here at the local Walmarts. Now 40 is here but no 38. A while ago 22 LR was everywhere, now no. 410 Handgun is stacking up on the shelves. 9MM was nowhere and then a big spurt happened and I found 3000 rnds.

In the last year I've had two gun stores tell me it would be 6 months tops before we would not be able to get guns in this country. Sheesh.

 

[6GUNSONLY]

There's still no 9s available in my locale. Went in Walmart a couple weeks ago; they had some rifle ammo in the more common calibers (but no 7mm Rem. Mag, which is what is was looking for). Little/no .22 ammo, had a few boxes of .38 and .357, a few .40s. I believe I have more ammo at home than they had on the shelves.

 

[Smithhound]

Sometimes I don't know how my friends who own gunshops put up with the ignorant talk they hear on a daily basis. Just a few examples I've heard from folks while I've been in one shop alone:

'My Granddad brought back one of them M1 Carbines that he said would hit at 1000 yards like a brick!'

'I got my Dad's old Salvage Rifle, it's in .308 Salvage, what's it worth?'

'I've got a 4" Smith & Western that I got and it used to have a long barrel on it, can I trade that in?'

'No, I'm sure that the 7.62 in that box is what I've been shooting in that old Spanish Mouser, I've shot it 2 or 3 thousand times with that ammo there' - Refering to 7.62x39!!

'Why do I have to have some license to have to sell this AR-15??'
-Said while holding a 10.5" barreled example!

How dealers do it I don't know. I used to set up at shows back in the early '90's with a freind, just to help out and it drove me out of that aspect real quick. At least when you're a customer you can walk out, the dealer is stuck there.
RD

 

[robertrwalsh]

A lot of this is caused by the latest military procurement bill which SPECIFIED U.S. production for purchases. A lot of MilSpec ammo was previously supplied by Israeli MI and the Phillipeans and Brazil. Even stateside police departments are having to hustle for rounds. As long as the fighting in the sandbox keeps up this is likely to be the situation.

 

[desi2358]

Smithhound, I would have to agree. I work in a gun shop and the greatest amount of rumors and BS walks in the door every day. I get to hear every internet scare at least twice a day, "my friend told me" stories and of course all those people who don't remember what caliber ammo they need but "if I'll just show them some they know what it looks like"!!
9mm and 40 were the only two calibers that never completely dried up even during all the panic buying of the last year. I would suspect that high contract production means that there will always be some available for the rest of the marketplace.

 

[Hyperion]

I was at our local gun store today and purchased a M&P40 and while I was waiting another customer had asked for 9mm ammo and they were told no more 9's in the store and they didn't know when they would get more due to Homeland securities need. Thats when it went all but silent. According to the g/s homeland security has an order in for 9 billion rds. Thats right he said 9 billion and not 9 million rds. You should have seen some of the faces of the people in the store, it was like shear panic for some of them. Could you imagine if this was true. It would fly off the shelf even faster and would bring a primo price as well. Well due to the rumor here goes prices and empty shelves again.

When I hear stories like this I always ask for the original source document for the story they just told. It doesn't always make me really popular, but it helps keep the BS level down....

 

[H Richard]

Just think, someday we, or our children, will be able to buy all this surplus ammo for pennies on the dollar. Which we taxpayers have paid inflated full price for.

 

[imjin138]

Was at Shooter's the last few days and thay have 9mm FMJ but no self defense type ammo, they shelves are stocked pretty well. I may go to cabelas or Gander this weekend depending on how I feel.

 

[ChuckS1]

Which is why I reload and cast my own bullets.

 

[USAF385]

One reason I love the .40 is the abundance of ammo. This past weekend I picked up 500 target rounds and 120 JHPs. (I saw a box of Magtech 155 gr for $17 I couldnt pass up) all for under $200.

 

[spricks]

Yep, I agree that varies alot from store to store. I was in Walmart today and bought the only 100rd pack of 40's they had. The store clerk didn't know when they would get anymore in. He said phone calls to corporate don't help his supply one bit.

spricks