I am also not a fan of the lock, but carry my 627 PC without concern. It's a wonderful CCW revolver. To personalize mine, I had the cylinder, ejector rod and cylinder release black nitrided.
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I am also not a fan of the lock, but carry my 627 PC without concern. It's a wonderful CCW revolver. To personalize mine, I had the cylinder, ejector rod and cylinder release black nitrided.
Yeah that was what I was hoping (forgot to mention in the first post) I spoke with someone at the performance center and they said they wouldn't do a barrel swap
Have read here within past few years of people having barrels swapped by S&W factory on the 627 and other models.
Unless they changed policy recently in doing so.
Maybe try calling again and speaking with another representative.
I think I will do that! Thanks Dozer
An N Frame is a tough gun to carry all day regardless of barrel length. A model 60 with a bobbed hammer is a great carry gun. A 66 with the short barrel is another good one, but the larger cylinder still Ike's to dig in at all the wrong places.
Jimmy62
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Carried a 3" model 65 round butt for over ten years, the best carry gun I ever used. Carried it on the job in a pancake and never had any issues with comfort, and it had the best trigger I've ever had aside from my CS-1 3" which was worked by S&W as you know. Keep your 627, the ones I've shot have been phenominal. It's a great investment.
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Gryff
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What about one of the special edition 3-5-7 model L-Frames in 3"? It's not an N-Frame, but it has the unfluted cylinder, and 3" is pretty close to 2-5/8". Nice looking guns.
Model 686 Plus 3-5-7 Magnum Series | Smith & Wesson
Model 686 Plus 3-5-7 Magnum Series | Smith & Wesson
Have you tried to carry the 5" barrel? It seems like the extra 2 1/2" of barrel would not make that much difference. I carry a full size 1911 and also an officer 1911 and the extra barrel length does not seem make a lot of difference. Maybe buy a holster where they allow you to swap it back for a different model? Just a thought.
JGR_LV
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Airing my ignorance...
How many of the brethern here have actually experienced a problem with a S&W frame lock revolver? I did a quick search and found one report where somebody said his steel-frame had spontaneously locked when he dropped it about four feet onto a concrete floor. Massad Ayoob wrote a nice piece about his take on it which you can find at Massad Ayoob >> Blog Archive >> INTERNAL GUN LOCKS. He mentioned that report and that he'd heard of a number of stories regarding light alloy frame revolvers locking that way when fired with extremely hot loads, but had done a lot of that kind of shooting with one he's owned for years and never had an issue. His solution (and mine) is to have and carry the old-style revolvers for social purposes and keep the others for target and hunting, but, like most people who carry a wheelgun for self-defense, we're both clearly suspenders & belt types. He also discusses the wisdom, or lack thereof, of removing the lock on a carry gun. It's worth a read. Meanwhile, from what I've seen, most of the "spontaneous lock" stories out there that I could find were things that happened to the second cousin of somebody the teller met in a bar. I'd be interested in firsthand accounts.
How many of the brethern here have actually experienced a problem with a S&W frame lock revolver? I did a quick search and found one report where somebody said his steel-frame had spontaneously locked when he dropped it about four feet onto a concrete floor. Massad Ayoob wrote a nice piece about his take on it which you can find at Massad Ayoob >> Blog Archive >> INTERNAL GUN LOCKS. He mentioned that report and that he'd heard of a number of stories regarding light alloy frame revolvers locking that way when fired with extremely hot loads, but had done a lot of that kind of shooting with one he's owned for years and never had an issue. His solution (and mine) is to have and carry the old-style revolvers for social purposes and keep the others for target and hunting, but, like most people who carry a wheelgun for self-defense, we're both clearly suspenders & belt types. He also discusses the wisdom, or lack thereof, of removing the lock on a carry gun. It's worth a read. Meanwhile, from what I've seen, most of the "spontaneous lock" stories out there that I could find were things that happened to the second cousin of somebody the teller met in a bar. I'd be interested in firsthand accounts.
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I've tried... with a sport coat I can pull it off iwb... clearing the 5" barrel is another story... I think because of the design of the n frame the overall length and profile is just a different monster than the 1911
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I've seen a few first hand account online (can't find em at the moment)... but it never bothered me in the way that I thought for sure it would fail... it's more of the principle of it that I couldn't get over.
But that being said, I de-locked a pc 637 I had back in the day, just because I wanted to take it apart and while I was in there figured I might as well go ahead and eliminate the possibility of it happening (it's now my dads carry gun).
I like to know how things work and have always enjoyed taking things apart, learning what relationship parts have to each other how they work in detail, and putting them back together...
I'm no engineer but I would like to think I have a decent understanding on what is a good design/build and what isn't...and the overall design and build of the IL and it's hairwidth spring (thinner than the slide release spring on a Beretta 92... and that is a damn skinny spring) that keeps it from springing at an in opportune time doesn't inspire any confidence...
gman51
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IMO a 627 even with a snub would be to big to comfortable carry because it still is an N frame. Get yourself a 640-1 for carry and keep the 627 just because you might kick yourself for letting it go.
I have a 627-5 four inch Pro that stays in the safe and doesn't get carried because of its size and weight. I just had to have an 8 round revolver.
I have a 627-5 four inch Pro that stays in the safe and doesn't get carried because of its size and weight. I just had to have an 8 round revolver.
Let's keep this thread on the original topic. It is starting to turn into a debate on the internal lock and we certainly don't need to hear any more opinions on that subject or it will be closed.
Marshal Tom
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I am fortunate to own both a 3inch 66 and a 686 CS-1, 3 inch. Both are great for carry. I really like the added ejector length for kicking out .357 Rds. Both are a little easier to conceal than the PC 627 but I do love that gun and would not mind owning one of them.
