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MDFerrell
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Bought a 3.6" at a gun show last fall. It came in a plastic box.
I also love the way it feels and shoots. Makes me a better shooter.
I also love the way it feels and shoots. Makes me a better shooter.
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I'm going to get me a 3.6" in the next few months!
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Just picked up my 3.6 yesterday. I really like the feel and features over the Glock 26 I've had for years. To be honest, I had the M&P 9C back when. I found it to be a good pistol; accurate, reliable and durable, but it was just a bit too big to have the minimized backstrap length, so I traded it off after finding the G26 seemed a bit better in that area.
I cleaned the 3.6 and took it out for a function test. I only ran 30 rounds through it, but it fed and fired flawlessly with Winchester White Box. I also noted that the groups at 30 ft. were nice and tight for shooting off-hand standing only.
I'll get an assortment of 9mm makes and configurations to test further, but I really like it. I've got a feeling my G26 is going away soon. Next week, I'll be picking up my M&P 2.0 5". It also feels very good in the hand. I'm even thinking about getting the 2.0 Shields; the 9mm in the standard length and the .45 in the new Performance Center 4". I like the G43 and Sig 365, but I think the 2.0 versions may be the ticket for a return to all S&W in my polymer guns.
UPDATE:
I took the 2.0 3.6", along with my new 2.0 5" FDE to the range yesterday and wrung them out. I ran about 200 rounds of FMJ and assorted JHP rounds throughout them without a hitch. The triggers on both guns were smooth and relatively light with great reset. Accuracy with both pistols was very good - tighter than I shoot my Glocks. To put it mildly, I'm really impressed with the 2.0 models. Next step will be to get a Shield 2.0 and collect up the holsters for my intended modes of carry.
I cleaned the 3.6 and took it out for a function test. I only ran 30 rounds through it, but it fed and fired flawlessly with Winchester White Box. I also noted that the groups at 30 ft. were nice and tight for shooting off-hand standing only.
I'll get an assortment of 9mm makes and configurations to test further, but I really like it. I've got a feeling my G26 is going away soon. Next week, I'll be picking up my M&P 2.0 5". It also feels very good in the hand. I'm even thinking about getting the 2.0 Shields; the 9mm in the standard length and the .45 in the new Performance Center 4". I like the G43 and Sig 365, but I think the 2.0 versions may be the ticket for a return to all S&W in my polymer guns.
UPDATE:
I took the 2.0 3.6", along with my new 2.0 5" FDE to the range yesterday and wrung them out. I ran about 200 rounds of FMJ and assorted JHP rounds throughout them without a hitch. The triggers on both guns were smooth and relatively light with great reset. Accuracy with both pistols was very good - tighter than I shoot my Glocks. To put it mildly, I'm really impressed with the 2.0 models. Next step will be to get a Shield 2.0 and collect up the holsters for my intended modes of carry.
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I'm envious of the magazine interchangeability that Glock users enjoy, and really wanted to like the Glock 26. But I can't get over the blocky feeling of the grip and more importantly for me, the frame and bottom of the trigger guard are uncomfortable against my trigger and middle fingers. So much so, that I won't get one.
That being said, I love my 45 Shield and really like the feel of 2.0 Compact. I'm getting the 3.6" Compact for that reason and because it has magazine compatibility with my Sub-2000 (full-size M&P mags) and with my Ruger PC Carbine (after cutting/filing a 'notch' into the front of the M&P magazines to match the Ruger Security 9's magazine notch).
I hope S&W continues to give us more size options in the M&P 2.0 double-stack line of pistols!
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What is the advantage of the 4.0" barrel vs the standard size. Disadvantages?
For my shooting ability the full size will slightly improve my accuracy due to the longer sight radius and the added weight helps with the barrel flip. You will gain surface area for your grip and a larger round capacity (although not always a large increase). There should be a decrease in velocity going to the micro guns. I enjoy my larger guns at the range shooting with my friends when friendly competition is involved.
I agree that the 4.25" holds an advantage over the smaller 4.0 or 3.6 models along with the grip. However, for my abilities as a shooter, it's negligible. I really didn't see much difference. As far as grip, I do have a 17 rounder that I run with the grip extender that came in the box. Again, I've shot with the extra grip and the regular 15 rounder and didn't see any difference. A better shooter might.
The main difference for me is that if I choose to conceal carry it, the 3.6 will work. I was never going to carry my 4.25". It was a range gun only. The 3.6 will work for both.
The main difference for me is that if I choose to conceal carry it, the 3.6 will work. I was never going to carry my 4.25". It was a range gun only. The 3.6 will work for both.
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I'm pretty sure S&W does this to the same degree Glock does.
I have 6 different pistols that shoot the same 9mm 17r double stack mags. And there are over a dozen more versions that take them also.
Basically, each "stack type" (double stack, single stack, stack and a half) of the same caliber are interchangeable. And I don't think you can do any better than that.
If anything, Smith does it better because they offer more versions of 9mm double stack pistols.
I'm not saying this makes S&W better than Glock. There is a long list of other reasons that makes that case.
The new 2.0 sub compact like the old m&p9c can run a flat base 10 round mag if needed like in some states ! My wife has had a couple of those for her 9c but she uses the pinky extension 12 rounders in it with a 17 round mag as back up with an X grip on it . Today with the 15 rounder and 23rounder it makes for a wide variety or mags we have in the house as we also have a 4.25 core now my wife's fun and house gun and I have a 4" compact optic ready . That ones for me if I ever feel the 40 or 45 are no longer enjoyable to keep up my training with or if I need a dot optic on a daily carry .
I find it a little strange they kept the old curved, hinged trigger on the non-optic ready gun, instead of going with the new flat(ter) tabbed trigger they put on the optics ready (and Shield Plus) models. I might get the optics ready model just to get that (and since I'd probably put on optic on it also.)
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Yes, I do, and in my opinion, it's a winner. My Gen 5 G-19 now resides in the house. I can ramble on if need be.
>>I find it a little strange they kept the old curved, hinged trigger<<
Fortunately, mine (used) came with an Apex flatty already installed!
Fortunately, mine (used) came with an Apex flatty already installed!
A lot of people complain about the hinged trigger because it is not what they are accustomed to on their Glocks or Glock-wannabes. I grew up shooting guns with triggers that did not have a safety lever protruding from the trigger face and I still don't like them. OTOH I adjusted quickly to the hinged trigger on the M&P 1.0 and haven't looked back.
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If Glock initially had a hinge trigger, and later on, S&W introduced their M&P 1.0 with a trigger blade, all the naysayers and people complaining and pontificating about how much they dislike the hinge trigger would be complaining about the bladed trigger..... It's partly because it's what they're used to seeing and even more so because a lot of people are followers. The decision on what they like and do like depends of what the consensus of the bandwagon.
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I don't feel the new M&P ( flat trigger ) is special like many seem to, just different and I don't care for flat triggers in general. Apex kits give you options s&w never will and you can purchase there straight or curved trigger . I was able to try a guys m&p with a apex straight trigger before ordering my first apex fst kit for a m&p CORE . I went with there curved trigger and like that one well and have it in several other m&p But we still have the first m&p a 9c and the latest a 2.0 pc 5" 40sw that have the hinged trigger .
The only real way for YOU to find out what YOU like and to try a few even handle the new m&p version and with snap caps maybe pull the trigger so you can and make up your own mind.
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I've dry fired the new trigger. It seemed fine. But finding a gun with the Apex installed to try isn't easy unless you know someone with one. Hence the question for those who have tried both.
Look , you can watch videos on how different an apex full trigger kit can be or ask who has one near to where you live ! I'm in western NC . Other wise your just gona have to take a chance and try one or not , your money . ha
Or you can add some radius to the the corners on your connector with a diamond stone where it makes contact with the striker block and sear , polish those tiny areas some smooth and improve the stock trigger pull into the lower 4lb range . I had 2 hand surgery's on my strong hand and the that's the primary reason for me to use apex products . Other wise its up to you to figure out what you need or want . Your choice . Watch the video below to see just the movement difference of the stock hinged trigger and the apex .
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