New 640 pro series W/Night sights has no ILS?

[1911luver]

I just saw something about this that the new pro series 640 J-frame with the night sights is a no lock gun,is this correct? If so is the same true for all the "Pro series" J-frames,and the pro series 640 with out the night sights as well? By my count we've got the 642/442/40/42 and now this pro series offering that can be had with out the ILS.

I'm not trying to start another lock thread as it has been beaten to death(and then some)but I love the idea of a new no lock J-frame. Just for the record I own one ILS J-frame a 340PD with CT405 laser grips,I got this gun in like new in box shape for $550 I couldn't pass that deal up. I think the cool factor of the 340PD is off the charts and I'd love a no lock version of this gun as well.

Getting back on topic is it me or are the "no lock" J-frames being limited to the centennial model guns? Is this because of a liability thing becuase these gun can't be manually cocked for single action?

Anyways if this is the case I plan on having my local dealer order me one ASAP,anyone know if they're shipping yet,if not when? If this is true there goes my income tax return.

 

[rz625-8]

S&W have been getting alot of emails and phone calls about the problems of the ils lock. I had some problems with mine starting to engage my 625-8 when shooting it. I called up S&W customer service and told them that the locking mech. did not look right along with spring. So I removed the lock and goofy part and sent it back to S&W. so far now my 625-8 in .45acp/auto-rim hasnt had a malfunction since I removed the flag. I got the flag and spring back yesterday and the note from S&W told me if I wanted to to put it back in the gun. I said to myself heck no. So far my 5 inch revolver has been doing just fine without the darn lck flag and spring. rz625-8

 

[SaberOne]

Yeah, the new 640 Pro does include the lock. The photo from the Shot Show does appear to be misleading in that it's hard to tell. Also the S&W website doesn't list it as a 'no-lock' version. Of course if it did, it may have likely been a marketing dream. Oh well, maybe some day...

Anyway, I returned to revolvers after many years and I can't believe I didn't hold on to any of my older models. Now, I'm stuck with three lock versions that came easier for me to buy than the old stock. I know I can disable the darn things and I may well do just that. This was clearly one of the biggest missteps in S&W history. They could have come up with something that at least worked correctly, and that in itself, is the worst part of the lock design.