New revolvers without IL?

[TiroFijo]

I've seen this in another forum, is it true? Has anyone got a new S&W without IL other than the J frames?

http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultim...;t=000094;p=1#000008

CDNN Investments had these NIL models listed in the e-mail I received on 08-08-08.

S&W Revolvers

#SMI100419 15 · 38spl · 4" · Brite Blue · Adjustable Sight · SAMPLE · No Lock........$389.99

#SMI101615 37 · 38spl · 2" · Black Airweight · Fixed Sight · Round Butt · No Lock · Box Marked "Japan" ...$349.99

#SMI102810 442 · 38spl · 1.87" · Black · Limited Edition · Round Butt · No Internal Lock....$359.99

#SMI102420 60 · 357Mag · 2.13" · Stainless · Fixed Sight · Rubber Grip · No Lock.......$439.99

#SMI102430 60 · 357Mag · 3" · Stainless · Adjustable Sight · Full Lug · No Lock............$449.99

#SMI102302 60NL · 38spl · 2" · Stainless · Rubber Grip · 5-shot · No Lock.....$429.99

#SMI102434 60-10 · 357Mag · 3" · Full Lug · Adjustable Sight · No Lock · Round Butt................$469.99

#SMI103644 629 · 44Mag · 6.5"· Stainless · Classic Deluxe · 2 Grips · No Internal Lock · Extra Sight Blades.....$649.99

#SMI149811 629 · 44Mag · 6.5"· Stainless · Classic · "NRA" · Full Lug · No Lock.....$599.99

#SMI103640 629 · 44Mag · 8.37" · Stainless · Classic · Full Lug · No Internal Lock......$599.99

#SMI103646 629 · 44Mag · 8.37" · Stainless · Classic · 2-Grips · No Internal Lock.....$549.99

#SMI103070 638 · 38spl · 1.87"· Stainless · Lightweight Bodyguard · No Lock.....$369.99

#SMI102502 64 · 38spl+P · 2"· Stainless · Fixed Sight · No Lock · Rubber Grip.........$449.99

#SMI104272 686 · 357Mag · 6"· Stainless · Ported · Full Lug · No Lock.................$549.99

 

[TiroFijo]

I've seen this in another forum, is it true? Has anyone got a new S&W without IL other than the J frames?

http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultim...;t=000094;p=1#000008

CDNN Investments had these NIL models listed in the e-mail I received on 08-08-08.

S&W Revolvers

#SMI100419 15 · 38spl · 4" · Brite Blue · Adjustable Sight · SAMPLE · No Lock........$389.99

#SMI101615 37 · 38spl · 2" · Black Airweight · Fixed Sight · Round Butt · No Lock · Box Marked "Japan" ...$349.99

#SMI102810 442 · 38spl · 1.87" · Black · Limited Edition · Round Butt · No Internal Lock....$359.99

#SMI102420 60 · 357Mag · 2.13" · Stainless · Fixed Sight · Rubber Grip · No Lock.......$439.99

#SMI102430 60 · 357Mag · 3" · Stainless · Adjustable Sight · Full Lug · No Lock............$449.99

#SMI102302 60NL · 38spl · 2" · Stainless · Rubber Grip · 5-shot · No Lock.....$429.99

#SMI102434 60-10 · 357Mag · 3" · Full Lug · Adjustable Sight · No Lock · Round Butt................$469.99

#SMI103644 629 · 44Mag · 6.5"· Stainless · Classic Deluxe · 2 Grips · No Internal Lock · Extra Sight Blades.....$649.99

#SMI149811 629 · 44Mag · 6.5"· Stainless · Classic · "NRA" · Full Lug · No Lock.....$599.99

#SMI103640 629 · 44Mag · 8.37" · Stainless · Classic · Full Lug · No Internal Lock......$599.99

#SMI103646 629 · 44Mag · 8.37" · Stainless · Classic · 2-Grips · No Internal Lock.....$549.99

#SMI103070 638 · 38spl · 1.87"· Stainless · Lightweight Bodyguard · No Lock.....$369.99

#SMI102502 64 · 38spl+P · 2"· Stainless · Fixed Sight · No Lock · Rubber Grip.........$449.99

#SMI104272 686 · 357Mag · 6"· Stainless · Ported · Full Lug · No Lock.................$549.99

 

[CavalryJim]

Yes, S&W has a couple of models that you can get without a lock.

That particular email from CDNN could best be described as "pre-lock" S&W guns. CDNN gets a lot of trade-ins and those are likely used (but still good) firearms.

 

[TiroFijo]

Thanks Jim

Nothing wrong with these fine "pre-IL" models, I just misundertood the ad. I was hoping for newly made, NIB revolvers (other than J frames) without IL.

Hopefully soon...

 

[DocAlamo]

Talked to S&W today and the customer rep told me that they most likely will be making the lock optional in the future. She said they have received so many complaints that they are going to sell the future guns (next year I assume) with the lock as an optional purchase item.

We shall see.

She also said they were going to release the Model 19 in the Classic Series along with 4 other models at the Shot Show. Will be interesting to see if these have the lock or not.

FWIW.

Dr. Bill

 

[jj2am44]

I was told by my dealer that any gun could be ordered without the lock.

 

[Andy Griffith]

Originally posted by jj2am44:
I was told by my dealer that any gun could be ordered without the lock.

Ask him if he wants to bet a brand new 629.

You'll come out with a free one!

(Just send me 10% of the value in biscuits)

 

[deanodog]

I would love to have a new model 629 with or without the IL. Oh well just dreaming.

 

[hitecrednek]

M-19 Classic?
The IL is optional?

 

[460v LAC du FLAMBEAU]

Mid-January is the SHOT trade show in Orlando.

Great time to announce "IL" as optional???

 

[animalmother]

If S&W does indeed offer guns w/o any IL, the guy making the ones with IL is going to be lonelier than the Maytag Man.

 

[cmort666]

Originally posted by DocAlamo:
Talked to S&W today and the customer rep told me that they most likely will be making the lock optional in the future.

That's no more than anyone's asked for.

I could definitely see a new 3" 24 or 27 for CCW.

 

[AKAOV1MAN]

Many of the "no lock" guns offered by CDNN are NIB. They buy up quanities from distributors from time to time.

 

[okie john]

Once they start making serious no-lock fighting handguns on the N-frame, I'll be in tall cotton. And probably in serious trouble with my wife.

I predict the lock guns will go the way of the push-feed Model 70.


Okie John

 

[DocAlamo]

Guys,

I asked her three times about the lock, just to make sure I was not hallucinating auditorily. She confirmed to me that, because they have gotten so many complaints, that they were supposed to begin making revolvers with the lock as an optional add-on. I told her that would make a ton of folks on this forum excited and they should anticipate sales to triple if they do.

She also said that there would be four more classics, with the Model 19 being one of them. I told her that if I came without the lock to just put one aside for me!! SCORE. To be honest, when I heard the Model 19 I completely went brain dead as to what the other models were.

She also said they were increasing their Night Guard line ... and I would look for a .327 Mag in that line-up.

I sure hope she was not pulling my leg ... that would have been SO RUDE and CRUEL. But, this is Halloween week. I would have called her bluff if it was April 1st!!

Dr. Bill

 

[okie john]

Model 58, anyone?


Okie John

 

[ladder13]

Originally posted by DocAlamo:
Guys,

I asked her three times about the lock, just to make sure I was not hallucinating auditorily. She confirmed to me that, because they have gotten so many complaints, that they were supposed to begin making revolvers with the lock as an optional add-on. I told her that would make a ton of folks on this forum excited and they should anticipate sales to triple if they do.

She also said that there would be four more classics, with the Model 19 being one of them. I told her that if I came without the lock to just put one aside for me!!

If they come out with any 3 inchers, I'm buying the whole run.

Mike
SWCA 1975

 

[fran m]

Will these have the huge thick two piece barrels? I love the older models with the slimmer barrel with the small letters etched into them. I thinks the new Smiths look like something Taurus would be putting out.

I understand from people who shoot the new S&Ws that they shoot great. I just don't like their looks, lock or two piece barrel.

 

[cmort666]

Originally posted by fran m:
Will these have the huge thick two piece barrels? I love the older models with the slimmer barrel with the small letters etched into them. I thinks the new Smiths look like something Taurus would be putting out.

I understand from people who shoot the new S&Ws that they shoot great. I just don't like their looks, lock or two piece barrel.

I can handle the two piece barrel, so long as it doesn't break off.

Of course if they're so into two piece barrels, why don't they buy Dan Wesson from CZ and start making .357 15VHs again?

 

[willy]

Originally posted by okie john:
Model 58, anyone?


Okie John

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Make them in 44 or 45 and I will buy one of each!


Willy