okiegtrider
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This is interesting to me. I like that S&W is being responsive to the market's interest in red dot guns.
New Shield Models
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Zebra War Wagon
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I quickly read most of the responses here, and I have to say that the Glock 48 offers most of what has been listed as desired. I have a couple Shields and absolutely love them and have no intention on getting rid of them. However, in January when I purchased my Glock 48, the Shield have taken a back seat. Unlike others that seek a lighter trigger in their carry pistols, I went the other way and added the 8 lb connector to my G-48 and now have a 7 lb 14 oz trigger pull. The G48 already has 10 + 1 rounds as a standard capacity, offers full hand purchase without a Pearce magazine extension or extended magazine, is extremely reliable and doesn't need a safety with the heaver connector. IMHO: S&W is behind the curve ball with these new models.....
In answer to the question above... about the advantages of a hammer... there are several, although they do not appeal to everyone. So my idea is to have a hammer-fired Shield-size pistol for those who want that feature, not to do away with the striker-fired pistol.
Advantages, then:
1. A long, relatively heavy DA trigger press that increases positive control of the pistol, while being less vulnerable to accidental discharges - particularly during re-holstering or if carried IWB or in a pocket. (I know, striker-fired guns are "just as safe" and the "safety is the brain" but somehow, year in and year out, striker-fired guns seem to have more ADs/NDs than DA pistols and revolvers. Whether the AD/ND comes from a finger left on the trigger, or from a jacket cord or a scrap of T shirt caught in the trigger guard, there is no doubt the striker-fired gun that has a light trigger press is more easily, well, triggered).
2. A shorter, light SA trigger press that can enhance practical accuracy.
3. A hammer that can be seen (to determine if the pistol is cocked) and checked or even controlled with the thumb during re-holstering (to prevent accidental or negligent discharges).
For those who "grew up" with hammer-fired pistols, or who prefer them, simply an option that we prefer in a pistol. If a large enough group of people would like a hammer, then it would benefit S&W to make and sell one in a pistol in the size category of the Shield. A comparable pistol is the Springfield Armory XD-E.
Advantages, then:
1. A long, relatively heavy DA trigger press that increases positive control of the pistol, while being less vulnerable to accidental discharges - particularly during re-holstering or if carried IWB or in a pocket. (I know, striker-fired guns are "just as safe" and the "safety is the brain" but somehow, year in and year out, striker-fired guns seem to have more ADs/NDs than DA pistols and revolvers. Whether the AD/ND comes from a finger left on the trigger, or from a jacket cord or a scrap of T shirt caught in the trigger guard, there is no doubt the striker-fired gun that has a light trigger press is more easily, well, triggered).
2. A shorter, light SA trigger press that can enhance practical accuracy.
3. A hammer that can be seen (to determine if the pistol is cocked) and checked or even controlled with the thumb during re-holstering (to prevent accidental or negligent discharges).
For those who "grew up" with hammer-fired pistols, or who prefer them, simply an option that we prefer in a pistol. If a large enough group of people would like a hammer, then it would benefit S&W to make and sell one in a pistol in the size category of the Shield. A comparable pistol is the Springfield Armory XD-E.
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If kits are available I might buy one for my PC .45. I absolutely love shooting the Shield platform. My Shields remind me (feel/grip) of my 1911's. My wife shoots a 9mm PC that she loves but the EZ has become her favorite over her SA EMP/
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The 40 shield takes a little practice to master the sharp recoil but once you get a handle on that it is a good shooting lil gun
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Smitty357
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Im still sitting here with my OG shield .40 and factory 9mm barrel. Just wishing they would make me one in 10mm.
Again, all of those features can, and have been implemented in striker fired platforms. Certain P99 variants and it's clones, and certain Canik variants for example.
I talked to S&W customer service today about the reflexive sights being offered on these guns. Apparently, they are manufactured by Smith and Wesson, and beyond the dot size and battery required, they have surprisingly little information. The rep suggested I contact S&W via email and see if more info is available that way.
I have a LOT of questions about the furnished red dot sight. I am quite tempted by the 4" .45 Shield and the RDS concept. BUT I would prefer to know a lot more and make my own decision on what to get and mounting details. Sort of the "cry only once" approach. This is a bit like buying a specific car right off the dealer's lot because the salesman says "Trust me, this one is perfect for you." Yeah, sure.
I have and like the shorty .45 Shield, so it's not like I don't already have options.
I have and like the shorty .45 Shield, so it's not like I don't already have options.
I get wanting better size and capacity, but the weight difference is 1/2 an ounce.......
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I should have the non optics version at my LGS May 2nd. I have wanted a 4 inch shield since I purchased the original when they first came out. They said their supplier had 50 in stock.
The "standard" Shield barrel is 3.1 inches. I have several holsters for my 1.0 Shield PC model. Most have an open bottom so the longer barrel will go through, a couple don't though.
I'm sure most holster makers will eventually make ones for the 4" barrel, was just curious if anyone had seen any yet.
I'm sure most holster makers will eventually make ones for the 4" barrel, was just curious if anyone had seen any yet.
Not sure why a Shield of any Gen or Caliber would be considered outdated. Small, light, multiple calibers and a great shooting platform (IMO) for a small gun.
raven28690
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Ordered the base 4" today and have not been able to locate anyone that offers a Shield 4" holster. Wonder how the Springfield XDS 4" holsters would work?
I've been looking and asking questions for awhile now.
S&W is claiming the reflexive sight to be of their own manufacture, but it looks exactly like the Shield SMS shown here: https://www.shieldpsd.com/shop-2/shield-mini-sight-sms4moa-dot
One LGS has the .45 with red dot "in our warehouse" for MSRP. Bud's had one for $714, which quickly came and went. My local GearFire dealer hasn't heard a peep from his rep.
Bud's does have plenty of non-red dot versions in stock in all three calibers.
S&W is claiming the reflexive sight to be of their own manufacture, but it looks exactly like the Shield SMS shown here: https://www.shieldpsd.com/shop-2/shield-mini-sight-sms4moa-dot
One LGS has the .45 with red dot "in our warehouse" for MSRP. Bud's had one for $714, which quickly came and went. My local GearFire dealer hasn't heard a peep from his rep.
Bud's does have plenty of non-red dot versions in stock in all three calibers.
I ordered mine Wednesday from Tombstone tactical for $407.87, free shipping and the price includes shipping insurance.
I hope to have it tomorrow or Monday.
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