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New Smith & Wesson M&P 380 Shield EZ
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FloridaS&W
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Grip safety plus thumb safety.
"Easy to rack" slide, "easy to load" mags.
Nice ladies gun.
"Easy to rack" slide, "easy to load" mags.
Nice ladies gun.
Raisin
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Looks interesting. The specs so far don't show width or height though.
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That's........odd. Not sure what market their going after with this thing other than ladies/kids who are first getting into guns maybe? 9mm or 22 would be cheaper to train with and this gun does not look very compact.
What's with the grip safety?
What's with the grip safety?
Looks interesting - there isn't any safety on the trigger ... so maybe this is a hammer-fired auto? As noted above - sure looks big ...
Edited to add: another doh for me for failing to closely read the specs. So, it's sort of like an M&P .22 Compact but sized and chambered for .380. My .22 Compact has been 100% reliable and the trigger pull is great – but I don't know how much this whole grip safety appendage will impact the trigger. Looks to be huge compared to the old .380 BG.
Edited to add: another doh for me for failing to closely read the specs. So, it's sort of like an M&P .22 Compact but sized and chambered for .380. My .22 Compact has been 100% reliable and the trigger pull is great – but I don't know how much this whole grip safety appendage will impact the trigger. Looks to be huge compared to the old .380 BG.
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The specs say it's internal hammer fired, available with or without a thumb safety. It's got a 3.675" barrel and overall length is 6.7", and the weight is 18.5 oz. Since it's internal hammer fired, I assume it's DAO, with no external hammer to cock, which makes me wonder about the trigger. No mention of pull weight that I saw.
This would be a whole lot more interesting if it was in 9mm or .45 ACP.
This would be a whole lot more interesting if it was in 9mm or .45 ACP.
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A gun for people that don't like guns. It might even end up being legal in California.
It is nice to see that S&W is willing to think out of box. I have no interest in this gun but might really like the next gun most people have no use for.
The target market for this gun would probably be better off buying a 38 revolver. But if they would rather buy a semiauto I hope this gun works well for them. It looks big but the specs say it is not and a slim 380 should be easy to carry. Less recoil than a 9mm but a lot more effective and hopefully reliable than a 22.
It is nice to see that S&W is willing to think out of box. I have no interest in this gun but might really like the next gun most people have no use for.
The target market for this gun would probably be better off buying a 38 revolver. But if they would rather buy a semiauto I hope this gun works well for them. It looks big but the specs say it is not and a slim 380 should be easy to carry. Less recoil than a 9mm but a lot more effective and hopefully reliable than a 22.
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Smith's answer to the XDE basically.
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martybee
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From what I read in the reviews, it's Larger than the Shield 45. Here is
the link for the Review of the Shield 380EZ by Guns & Ammo.
FIRST LOOK: Easy-To-Rack S&W M&P 380 Shield
the link for the Review of the Shield 380EZ by Guns & Ammo.
FIRST LOOK: Easy-To-Rack S&W M&P 380 Shield
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I don't know the exact size of the .22 Compact-
What does this pistol compare to, size-wise? It looks almost like a full-size M&P.
What does this pistol compare to, size-wise? It looks almost like a full-size M&P.
hyena
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That gun looks like the answer to a question nobody asked.
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This wrap-up to the article makes me think it will be very successful.
"Regardless of your physical capability, the .380 chambering combined with the specially designed slide assembly and larger frame than the original Shield and Bodyguard models make recoil management of the M&P 380 Shield an afterthought. This pistol doesn't feel like it's torqueing in your hand or wanting to flip out of it.
With a 4½-pound trigger pull and short reset, this pistol is quick and very accurate. At the time of this writing, Guns & Ammo is still testing the performance of this model for an upcoming print issue. That said, the M&P 380 Shield appears capable of holding sub-2¼ inch groups from 25 yards making it one of the most accurate .380s G&A has ever tested."
We baby boomers are aging, this .380 looks to me like a wise marketing choice for S&W. Easy to handle and work the slide. 1911s have had a grip safety since the beginning, if it gives customers confidence, then why not.
I like 380 pistols. Have several as well as stuff up to 460SW Mag.
Would it be a pistol I would buy. No, but that is why they make all kinds of flavors of them.
I have a "regular" SW 380 Bodyguard, nice gun, but the Ruger LCP II has a nicer trigger. But it is a different kind of trigger. So different stokes for different folks
My favorite 380 is the Sig P230/232 but these days it is big and heavy.
Would it be a pistol I would buy. No, but that is why they make all kinds of flavors of them.
I have a "regular" SW 380 Bodyguard, nice gun, but the Ruger LCP II has a nicer trigger. But it is a different kind of trigger. So different stokes for different folks
My favorite 380 is the Sig P230/232 but these days it is big and heavy.
Ruger did the LC380 which is the LC9 with a .380 barrel and a spacer in the mag. I bought one and loved it. Old hands and all. My youngest daughter loved it to. Need I say more? I think I'll be looking at this when they show up in force to see if it might worth a try. BTW I have an original BG380 with laser and have had zero problems with it. Still shoot it regularly. But I'm getting older and something larger might be nice.
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A geriatric .380. Nope. Ain't going there. Sorry. Now where's my drool cup????
hyena
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I stand corrected. Between this thread and the other thread on this gun, it looks like many people are interested. I hope they sell well.
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This makes no sense. They basically take the .22 compact and make into a .380 instead of taking a 9mm Shield shrinking it down and making it into a .380. This is a worse idea the BG 380. The BG 380 has a bad trigger and none the ergos of a Shield, but at least it is small enough to carry. This new gun won't be great (for a .380 anyway) to carry so basically it will be a range gun/target gun. Who wants a .380 that is just good for the range????? S&W already has that with the .22 M&P. I just don't get it.
You don't "get it" because the gun is not designed to meet your needs. It is not meant to be an on-person, all-day-every-day CCW gun, nor a duty gun, nor a gun for frequent target and range use.
What the gun is designed for is a self-defense weapon for a different type of user. The gun will mostly be kept in a nightstand or glovebox, or maybe carried infrequently in a purse. It will appeal to casual users who may shoot a box of shells and never fire the gun again, or possibly shoot a box of shells every year or two. It will also appeal to people with physical infirmities that make it difficult to rack, load, or shoot other pistols.
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martybee
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I like it! It will fit nicely in the basket of my Walker! And I won't have to carry my Uplula Mag loader in the basket!
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I really like grip safeties like the one on my XDS. Makes for a safer gun but with a mindless safety. But this gun, not sure.. Not on the safety but size. Seems way big for being a 380. This isn't concealable for many especially women which it is targeted towards.
The new S&W is surprisingly similar in size to such classic 380 pistols as the Colt 1903, Beretta Cheetah, Browning/FN 1922, Savage 1907, and Walther PP.
