New Smith & Wesson M&P 380 Shield EZ
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hyena
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I stand corrected. Between this thread and the other thread on this gun, it looks like many people are interested. I hope they sell well.
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This makes no sense. They basically take the .22 compact and make into a .380 instead of taking a 9mm Shield shrinking it down and making it into a .380. This is a worse idea the BG 380. The BG 380 has a bad trigger and none the ergos of a Shield, but at least it is small enough to carry. This new gun won't be great (for a .380 anyway) to carry so basically it will be a range gun/target gun. Who wants a .380 that is just good for the range????? S&W already has that with the .22 M&P. I just don't get it.
You don't "get it" because the gun is not designed to meet your needs. It is not meant to be an on-person, all-day-every-day CCW gun, nor a duty gun, nor a gun for frequent target and range use.
What the gun is designed for is a self-defense weapon for a different type of user. The gun will mostly be kept in a nightstand or glovebox, or maybe carried infrequently in a purse. It will appeal to casual users who may shoot a box of shells and never fire the gun again, or possibly shoot a box of shells every year or two. It will also appeal to people with physical infirmities that make it difficult to rack, load, or shoot other pistols.
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martybee
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I like it! It will fit nicely in the basket of my Walker! And I won't have to carry my Uplula Mag loader in the basket!
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I really like grip safeties like the one on my XDS. Makes for a safer gun but with a mindless safety. But this gun, not sure.. Not on the safety but size. Seems way big for being a 380. This isn't concealable for many especially women which it is targeted towards.
The new S&W is surprisingly similar in size to such classic 380 pistols as the Colt 1903, Beretta Cheetah, Browning/FN 1922, Savage 1907, and Walther PP.
lonestar outlaw
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M&P 380 ez
I have owned smith and Wesson pistols for 50 years
and have often wondered why they did this or did that.
But it allways seem to be a product that suited someone's need
as is with this 380 ez.
They do a lot of research in developing a handgun and do it well
in my opinion
Just because someone thinks this handgun is worthless doesn't mean it won't suit the needs of others
I plan on buying one for my wife to carry as she has issues with racking and recoil
She has a bersa 380 thunder but it just doesn't suit her needs but a lot of people that own them like them
I have owned smith and Wesson pistols for 50 years
and have often wondered why they did this or did that.
But it allways seem to be a product that suited someone's need
as is with this 380 ez.
They do a lot of research in developing a handgun and do it well
in my opinion
Just because someone thinks this handgun is worthless doesn't mean it won't suit the needs of others
I plan on buying one for my wife to carry as she has issues with racking and recoil
She has a bersa 380 thunder but it just doesn't suit her needs but a lot of people that own them like them
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Telecaster
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I don't understand the bashing. Who wouldn't appreciate an easy-to-rack slide? A .22-style magazine you can pull down a lever and just drop the rounds in, without the feed lips eating up your fingertips? The grip safety is from "god" himself, JMB. If you don't like it, don't buy one.
It's just a skosh bigger than a 9mm Shield, longer barrel & grip. So maybe a 9mm EZ will happen one day, to please the manly-men on this forum.
It's just a skosh bigger than a 9mm Shield, longer barrel & grip. So maybe a 9mm EZ will happen one day, to please the manly-men on this forum.
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I don't understand the bashing. Who wouldn't appreciate an easy-to-rack slide? A .22-style magazine you can pull down a lever and just drop the rounds in, without the feed lips eating up your fingertips? The grip safety is from "god" himself, JMB. If you don't like it, don't buy one.
It's just a skosh bigger than a 9mm Shield, longer barrel & grip. So maybe a 9mm EZ will happen one day, to please the manly-men on this forum.
I can agree with most all you stated, however, I can't understand the larger size of this 380....could have done all this in a smaller than the 9 shield 2.0 frame.
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Some people prefer a full size grip so their pinky doesn't dangle? If it's for ladies, they may be carrying it in their purse, so size isn't critical. If they get their purse stolen that's not my or S&W's problem, I know...
Longer barrel helps make .380 more effective. Just trying to guess, here...
Longer barrel helps make .380 more effective. Just trying to guess, here...
ancient-one
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Just wait a few years and it won't be so funny.
The smallest possible gun for its caliber is an obsession of gun enthusiasts. Oddly, non-enthusiasts seem to prefer guns that are easy to shoot.
Vulcannut
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I myself wouldn't run out to buy one but I think it's a well thought out pistol that will appeal to quite a few different folk. That said my wife who already has a 9mm and has fired all of my different caliber and style pistols really wants to check one out. S&W must be on to something as she likes the idea and will probably get one and she hasn't even handled one yet.
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The issue I have with this gun is, why only 8 shots? IF it's as big as I've heard, why not increase capacity. I didn't get the LC380 at first. But I came to understand the niche it fills.
I have not interest in this gun. But I could see this gun being the parent of something I would like.
I have not interest in this gun. But I could see this gun being the parent of something I would like.
The fact that the pistol has a single stack also bothered me at first. Then I realized that the tabs on the sides of magazines to make loading easier take up space. The tradeoff was apparently between a double stack magazine or a single stack magazine that was easier to load.
