New South Wales marked Model 10-5

[coneten]

I mentioned this in an earlier thread about revolvers from OZ. It has a 2' barrel, square butt, SN#D165229 and no import stamp. Now I am having problems with pic..sorry.

 

[indiuckian]

Coneten,

That's a beauty!!! I can't believe the condition and I love the stamp. Hopefully someone on the forum from the wonderful land of Oz can tell you more. A very nice pre-plastic tacticool piece of police history.

Indy

See if there is not a number prefixing the D on your serial number, i.e. 2-17 D then the rest. The prefix should be between 2-17. I am guessing 1977-1978 but there should be a prefix (I think!). Someone smarter will be on shortly to give you more information.

 

[coneten]

Rick, No number prefix..SN# is as I have it in above post.

 

[sw44spl]

very nice I like the marking on it.

 

[J.D.]

That is indeed a very nice New South Wales Police issue Model 10.

the 2" model 10's were issued to detectives with uniformed Police being issued 3" model 10's.

This was all before the change over to the current Glock 22 & 23 back in the mid 90's.

Take care & enjoy.

JD

 

[WyoStillhunter]

She's a beaut,mate!

Lived in Oz most of 1965. Great place, great people.

I would love to stumble onto one of the 3" revolvers but the snubby would be a treat, too. Congratulations on having the 2" and thanks for sharing.

 

[coneten]

Thanks for the feedback. JD..it is really good to hear from someone who knows about these first hand..can we expect a flood of these in the future?

 

[S&W_aussie]

Love the stamped coat of arms

I don't think the Queensland Police did that....it looks awesome!

I haev never seen one around here for sale

Mike

 

[coneten]

close up

It is a very interesting logo..is it an osprey type of fish eagle?

 

[S&W_aussie]

It is a very interesting logo..is it an osprey type of fish eagle?

Its a Wedge Tailed Eagle...our biggest bird of prey.

Wiki says: The insignia of the NSW Police Force : Its coat of arms features the state badge of New South Wales, a soaring Australian Wedge Tail eagle carrying a scroll with the word Nemesis, a wreath and the St Edwards Crown, crown of the Queen of Australia, representing Her Majesty's Government

They are massive birds

Mike

 

[Okka]

NSW POLICE SN#?

I think it should have its own NSWPF Serial Number on the other side just under the cylinder?
I was told the NSWP detroyed (melted) all their old 10's; maybe this one got away?

 

[Andy the Aussie]

I think it should have its own NSWPF Serial Number on the other side just under the cylinder?
I was told the NSWP detroyed (melted) all their old 10's; maybe this one got away?

.... yep this.

Service policy was to destroy all NSWP firearms, they were not to be even transferred to other Govt agencies. In 1996 as the M10s were handed in (when attending to complete the Glock Transition) they were recorded and piled into milk crates and back to the Armoury, from there they were removed from the appointments record of each officer and shipped off to Port Kembla for the smelter. There was significant security and checking around this entire process as it was carried out at the height of the firearms hysteria out here.

As I pointed out in another thread, each revolver had an additional hand stamped "NSWP###" service number added by the armoury on the lower left side of the frame. If this is not present then it was not actually delivered to the NSW Police. My best guess is the few that are about are either overruns from the production that never made it out here, or were held back/over ordered by one of the two Australian S&W agents that supplied the service over the years or a "spare" side plate alone made it off or out of the armoury at some point...

This bit is direct from the NSWP history and is of some interest....


"1963
Constable First Class Cyril Howe was shot and killed at Oaklands after his pistol jammed. He was able to write his attacker's name in his official notebook before his death. He was posthumously promoted to the rank of Sergeant Third Class and awarded the Queen's Police Medal for Gallantry. His death lead to the adoption of the Smith & Wesson .38 calibre revolver as the standard Police sidearm in NSW."

They were issued piecemeal for a little but the first complete class to be issued them at the academy went through in 1966. I was intimately familiar with one from this class as it was issued to the man who I consider as my father.

Then 30 years on...

"1995
Senior Constables Peter Addison and Robert Spears were shot and killed at Crescent Head. As a result of these deaths, the Glock self-loading pistol was adopted as the standard sidearm for Police. Bullet resistant vests were also generally made available to operational Police."

I would love to see the letter that S&W produced on one of these in the US...

 

[Andy the Aussie]

I also believe that, despite what Wiki says, that is in fact a Sea Eagle (native to the NSW Coast) on the crest not a Wedge Tail...

 

[kaaskop49]

Thoughts on disposal

"...shipped off to the smelter..." Don't know about you, but to me, there's something very wrong about this. I can understand, to some degree, firearms confiscated in crimes being destroyed, but handguns which helped to keep the peace and protect officers and the public?

Yeah, I sound soft, waxing romantic about pieces if steel (just love 10s!), but instances like above are why I have been active for 40 years in the arena against the antis. Keep writing your reps, people!

 

[Andy the Aussie]

Did US Customs also destroy the majority of their CS-1s

 

[Andy the Aussie]

That is indeed a very nice New South Wales Police issue Model 10.

the 2" model 10's were issued to detectives with uniformed Police being issued 3" model 10's.

This was all before the change over to the current Glock 22 & 23 back in the mid 90's.

Take care & enjoy.

JD

...actually 2 inch M10s were really uncommon (I never saw one at all with NSWP). Designated Ds (not A Listers) could apply for me have their M10 replaced with a M36, same same was possible when attaining Commissioned rank. Some 3 inch 36s were also issued to officers who's hand was considered too small for a M10.