New to appendix carry?

I used appendix carry while working part time in a hobby store because I was on my feet for eight hours a day. It works for smaller guns. People who are short-trunked will experience more discomfort than more normal or long-trunked individuals.

My advisory is to make sure your holster is securely fastened to your belt to insure that gun and holster doesn't ride up and out of your pants.
 
Try 12:00 or 12:30. Also, I second the suggestion of a leather holster.
 
Please don't use the Urban Carry or any of those other gimmick magnet holsters

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Urban Carry holsters are garbage. Stay away from the gimmicky junk like that.
I really hope Eric300 was joking with his suggestion of Urban Carry holsters, but I know he was serious. These products are going to get you killed, or you'll shoot yourself trying to use them. It's scary that this **** exist and that people are dumb enough to buy them and use them.
 
If you want to modify your holster, a wedge at the bottom like CB3 said is easy and cheap (Dr. Scholls heel inserts work as well). Or, buy one with the features made specifically for AIWB. I recommend Keepers Concealment. Expensive, but it is my favorite. Spencer Keeper is big guy, and he carries his full-size Glock in his own gear. It can be comfortable, and very concealable, with the right gear. Others to try - JM Custom, and Dale Fricke. I've heard T-Rex Arms makes a good one, but I don't personally have one. I CCW AIWB almost every day with a Keepers. YMMV.

Keepers Concealment
JM Custom Kydex
Dale Fricke Holsters - Custom Kydex Holsters and Mag Pouches
 
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A fit body will make AWIB easier. Body type, ride height, cant, pistol dimensions, all play a role.

I think playing to your strength is critical in this realm, if it isn't working, pursue a more appropriate method of carry for your body type and firearm.

The more factors you have add in order to make carry comfortable, the less likely you will regularly have your pistol on you..

+1 on avoiding UrbanCarry. A holster is a critical piece of equipment, if it is as hidden as the footsteps of a navy seal, you do not want it in your pants
 
AIWB seems to be the current rage for all of the ex-military trainers so it has to be the ultimate doesn't it?

Not for me..........if it works for you then go for it! I don't really care how YOU carry.

Randy
 
I don't normally comment on things, but for the appendix carry topic I just have to ask, how does anyone whether fit or not carry this way without pointing the muzzle at themselves? Every instruction I have ever watched says to watch your muzzle and not point it at any part of your body. With this carry method, it is pointing at your leg when standing and worse if sitting. I am not fit nor fat but still can't even have a holster without a gun in that position without discomfort. I'm all for carry whatever works best for you but just can't see it from a safety point of view.
 
I don't normally comment on things, but for the appendix carry topic I just have to ask, how does anyone whether fit or not carry this way without pointing the muzzle at themselves?

This is an accurate observation about where the muzzle may be pointing when the gun is holstered. Everyone who has thought about, actually tried or chooses to carry AIWB struggles with this initially.

The dominant explanation is that a handgun safely holstered in a good (almost always Kydex) holster cannot fire when it is stored in there. Since the trigger cannot be manipulated or the cocked hammer/striker dropped to ignite a primer, no matter where it is pointed it is not going to go off.

You can carry AIWB with a DA revolver. It's not going off once safely in the holster.

You can carry a DA/SA semi auto hammer down. It's not going off once safely in the holster.

You can carry a semi auto with a manual safety that blocks the striker/hammer and/or trigger until deactivated, which will not happen when safely holstered.

The corollary question is, "How do you holster safely without pointing the muzzle at some part of your body?"

The exact same way you holster in any other carry position.

While standing, visually clear the path to the rigidly open holster mouth, carefully and slowly insert the gun with your finger off the trigger, tipping the holster away from your body if necessary. Don't allow the gun to point at your body during this process.

Because of the easy visual and tactile access to an AIWB holster, such a careful holstering is actually as safe or safer than trying to put a gun away behind your hip IWB with a covering garment.

Handguns have been carried in this position just about since they were invented. The position is not new or a passing fad. As with every carrying position, it is not for everybody. However, most of the supposed negatives are overcome with good training and equipment. The equipment we have today, belts and holsters as well as safe guns, make this an effective means of carrying a handgun for self defense.

That does not mean all other forms of carry are wrong or outdated. It is just another option based on many factors of concealed carry. However, too often folks make incorrect judgments based on assumptions or poor information. The hard and fast muzzle rule is a very good one and no one should be chastised for observing it very strictly.
 
I carry weak side cross draw IWB, since I'm left handed I'll call it that. I am slim & have carried OWB and IWB in this manner for years. It's very secure., avoids printing very well unless your doing back bends or calypso. I will also add that whether it's IWB or OWB, the chances of someone grabbling your weapon is slim...it's right there, you can rest your hand across your belt & cover the gun safely, whether it's concealed or not. You can bend over all day long, no gun mashing your kidney, no printing.

When sitting I simply slide slightly or tilt the holster more to my off side so when my hip flexes the holster & gun is oriented more to the outside., ie right hip butt forward that way it doesn't push the muzzle into my thigh...the DeSantis allows adjustment of kant..the standard kydex will do the same so long as the belt clip is solid., one simply shifts or tilts the holster orientation to adjust., your belt & holster will stay in the position most times by virtue of the friction, compression imparted by the belt & pants.

I use a Badger IWB Kydex & before that as Desantis supertuck which is useful for wearing a tucked in shirt with this mode of carry. I agree that body type plays a big part in comfort & feasibility.
 
I've been carrying AIWB for near 40 years (off duty mostly and retired). I do carry other methods but in most circumstances AIWB makes most sense and is most practical. I'm 6'+ and 220 so yeah I have a gut now.

I usually use a cheap Galco StownGo, at least I think that's the model. It's not perfect. A sweat guard would be nice. It grabs the belt nicely and when it needs to be lower for more concealment it can be slipped off the belt and onto the pants and it grabs them very well too (jeans anyhow).

My only real complaint is due to the rear sight on the shield having such sharp corners that can poke and scrape my mussel roll in certain circumstances.

I've successfully used and do use other holsters with other guns but the Galcos are economical and do work well.

For most concealed guns and holsters I strongly recommend the following: Whenever the gun is drawn, to holster it, remove the holster, holster the gun, and then place the holstered gun back where you wear it. When carrying a gun with a manual safety I will rarely cheat and engage the safety, holster, check that there's no binding and then disengage the safety. That obviously doesn't apply to 1911 family, etc.
 
AIWB seems to be the current rage for all of the ex-military trainers so it has to be the ultimate doesn't it?

Not for me..........if it works for you then go for it! I don't really care how YOU carry.

Randy

Well, objectively it is the fastest body position to draw from from concealment (and no not IDPA beige shooting vest over an OWB holster concealment) and it positions the weapon such that you are best able to control access to the weapon should you end up tangled up in a fight. So yes there are data driven reasons for its popularity and prevalence.

In fact the video from the recent Texas shooting is a tragic reminder of the limitations of small of the back carry. Had that first gentleman had a faster draw from a more accessible body position, he may still be alive.
 
Big guy here (6'3" 290lbs) and I find the smaller the firearm, the more uncomfortable it is to carry AIWB. Granted, that is the only way I carry, but the sweet spot for me for maximum comfort (I spend about 75% of my day either driving a car or a desk) is something with a 3.5" to 4" barrel. Anything less than 3.5" feels uncomfortable.

My normal EDC is my 2.0 Compact 4" in AWIB RH. Like CB3 stated, the holster and belt are very important to carry comfort, but to a great degree with appendix carry. I have also found that the pants make a difference as well. You want to make sure that the pants fit comfortably with the firearm in place, but you don't want them loose. This took a lot of trial and error for me, but I found pants in the right size that make even carrying my Beretta comfortable.
 
I've experimented (wasted a lot of money) with a lot of different belts for AIWB. In my experience the best belt is The Foundation Belt by Langdon Tactical. It's built specifically for AIWB carry, so it's firm where it needs to be (without being TOO stiff) while also being flexible in the spots where you don't want it to be overly firm. I definitely recommend checking it out:
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I've experimented (wasted a lot of money) with a lot of different belts for AIWB. In my experience the best belt is The Foundation Belt by Langdon Tactical. It's built specifically for AIWB carry, so it's firm where it needs to be (without being TOO stiff) while also being flexible in the spots where you don't want it to be overly firm. I definitely recommend checking it out:
The Foundation Belt - Langdon Tactical



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Oh man I've been needing a new slimmer belt, because mine prints a bit with a holster. This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you!
 
Oh man I've been needing a new slimmer belt, because mine prints a bit with a holster. This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you!


Yep that flat, low profile buckle is great. I hate how so many gun belts have these giant *** oversized buckles that print like crazy, drawing unnecessary attention to an area you don't want people closely looking at.
It's one thing a lot of concealed carriers get wrong. You don't need an uber stiff belt with a massive cobra belt buckle. You're not an operator trying to carry a full size gun and tons of other gear that's all worn OWB. Those belts are not meant for concealed carry.



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You're not an operator trying to carry a full size gun and tons of other gear that's all worn OWB. Those belts are not meant for concealed carry.

I tried a Langdon about a year and a half ago. The low profile buckle is a good idea. However, I found it didn't hold adjustment despite the Velcro and the thinner layers were not stiff enough for me. Maybe newer versions have different stiffening because it was a common complaint. Might be OK for a light load.

I prefer the stiff heavier duty nylon web belts. I don't find the buckle interferes with concealed carry. I am not an operator, but this how I carry my full size pistol AIWB, fixed blade knife and hi-cap spare mag (and phone) all day:
 

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@CB3 that buckle area profile looks pretty big. I'm a thin person and I hate when a buckle sticks out that far, and when my shirt lay against it, it creates a big "shelf". It looks very unnatural and draws unwanted attention. I carry a Shield in a T1C Axis Elite holster, spare mag, and sometimes a Kabar TDI knife. The Foundation Belt is perfect for this light load.

If you liked the Foundation Belt but want something a little stiffer, check out the Mastermind Tactics/Graith belts. I have one in size 34 that I don't use anymore if you are interested in one.
 
The dominant explanation is that a handgun safely holstered in a good (almost always Kydex) holster cannot fire when it is stored in there.
With all due respect to CB3, this statement is accurate until it isn't. Safeties are mechanical devices. The gun is a mechanical device. All mechanical devices can fail. Yes, even a spoon can fail. This is why rule #2 is so important: Never cover anything with the muzzle you don't want to destroy.

Enough verbiage. If this video doesn't give you pause, continue carrying AIWB angst free...

 
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