New To Me S&W 657-3 .41 Magnum

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I originally posted this on my forum at gunboards.com but wanted to get some input from the kind and knowing members here as well.


In maintaining my tradition of rewarding myself with a firearm for every graduate course I pass I went afield last month looking for just the right piece. This last course was a rather difficult one and I was having terrible writers block in completing the final paper. I walked into one of my haunts and found they had recently taken in an estate and were selling it off. Like a dolt, I had no cash on me and by the time I went back with the cash the two pieces I had intended to pick up; S&W 57 and a moderately modified S&W Registered Magnum, were gone in about 20 minutes! Just amazing. Anyway, as an incentive to finish my writing I put money down on this S&W 657-3 but decided not to take it home until my paper was submitted and the final grade was posted for this class. I got sick over New Years and this got pushed aside until this weekend when I paid it off and picked it up. The original owner certainly had good taste. This piece has been Magnaported with four ports and has had the trigger and hammer replaced. The trigger is a wide, grooved single action type trigger and the hammer is a Python type hammer with the large checkered thumb pad. Interestingly,all the pieces from his estate had been modified in a similar fashion and whomever had done the gunsmithing had done a good job. I have wondered if Magnaport did the trigger and hammer work and wonder if they would be willing to tell me if they did or not. I may request that information from them and see where that goes. There is also a gray substance coating the inside of the crane area that appears to be some form of lubricant. Obviously this piece was owned by a man who knew what he wanted and was willing to get his pieces set up the way he wanted them to. The sad news is that I do not see any indicators this piece has been fired. Indeed, none of the pieces in the estate indicate having been fired too much and most, like this piece, show no indications of being fired. To this end this 657-3 is my first .41 Magnum. I have fired borrowed revolvers in this caliber and always liked it but never could find the right piece for the right price to warrant putting the money down on. With the price of .41 Magnum ammo it may well be some time before I am plunking ammo downrange with this revolver. Indeed, I reckon the only way to shoot this caliber in any fashion that is economically feasible is to reload it and my reloading days may be many years in the future. Still, the piece is exciting and I am glad to own it. I am sure I will find a few boxes of ammo somewhere to see how it is working for the time being.

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I originally posted this on my forum at gunboards.com but wanted to get some input from the kind and knowing members here as well.


In maintaining my tradition of rewarding myself with a firearm for every graduate course I pass I went afield last month looking for just the right piece. This last course was a rather difficult one and I was having terrible writers block in completing the final paper. I walked into one of my haunts and found they had recently taken in an estate and were selling it off. Like a dolt, I had no cash on me and by the time I went back with the cash the two pieces I had intended to pick up; S&W 57 and a moderately modified S&W Registered Magnum, were gone in about 20 minutes! Just amazing. Anyway, as an incentive to finish my writing I put money down on this S&W 657-3 but decided not to take it home until my paper was submitted and the final grade was posted for this class. I got sick over New Years and this got pushed aside until this weekend when I paid it off and picked it up. The original owner certainly had good taste. This piece has been Magnaported with four ports and has had the trigger and hammer replaced. The trigger is a wide, grooved single action type trigger and the hammer is a Python type hammer with the large checkered thumb pad. Interestingly,all the pieces from his estate had been modified in a similar fashion and whomever had done the gunsmithing had done a good job. I have wondered if Magnaport did the trigger and hammer work and wonder if they would be willing to tell me if they did or not. I may request that information from them and see where that goes. There is also a gray substance coating the inside of the crane area that appears to be some form of lubricant. Obviously this piece was owned by a man who knew what he wanted and was willing to get his pieces set up the way he wanted them to. The sad news is that I do not see any indicators this piece has been fired. Indeed, none of the pieces in the estate indicate having been fired too much and most, like this piece, show no indications of being fired. To this end this 657-3 is my first .41 Magnum. I have fired borrowed revolvers in this caliber and always liked it but never could find the right piece for the right price to warrant putting the money down on. With the price of .41 Magnum ammo it may well be some time before I am plunking ammo downrange with this revolver. Indeed, I reckon the only way to shoot this caliber in any fashion that is economically feasible is to reload it and my reloading days may be many years in the future. Still, the piece is exciting and I am glad to own it. I am sure I will find a few boxes of ammo somewhere to see how it is working for the time being.

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I am assuming those Pachmyers are not the original grips. Personally, I do not care for Pachmyers and these are really good examples of why I do not like them. The seam between left and right sides is annoying even without the recoil of the discharging revolver to grind that seam into my palm. When I tried to take them off the revolver I could not unscrew the screw. I then noticed the threaded bushing the screw goes into is just twirling and not catching in the rubber. Thus, I cannot take the grips off without a little buggery of them. Does anyone know what would have been the original grips? I am assuming a piece from the era this one was made, circa 1997-98, would not have had the nice wooden combat grips. That is good for me as I can likely find what I think are the proper Houge grips easily to replace these Pachmyers. Indeed, I think I may even have a spare set of N frame Houge grips around here somewhere. Anyone care to share advice how to get these Pachmyers off? I have a few ideas but want to hear from those with more experience than mine.
 
I do not know about the Pachmyers problem; but you do not have to postpone reloading until you get a permanent residence. For years when I was in college I reloaded by clamping a 2x12" to any table and mounting my press to that. This was a heavy single stage press. The same thing could be done with a lighter Lee press and stored in a closet when not in use.
 
Nice gun. Looks very clean. A couple of days ago I bought a magnaported long-tube 57, but it has only two ports. I'll put photos up in another 10 days or so.

If I didn't care at all about what happened to the Pachmayr grips, I would probably just jam the jaws of some needlenose pliers down on either side of the bushing, grab on, and crank the screw hard on the other side. If I did care about the grips, I would probably do a variant of the same thing -- drop of penetrating oil on the bushing to see if that would help with the bound threads, then push canape toothpicks (the hard, round ones with pointed ends) down beside the bushing and try the screw again. If the toothpick breaks or won't push in, try a small jeweler's screwdriver. You might want to consider using an electric soldering iron to point-heat the bushing and screw, but not so much you'd burn the rubber.

My eyes may not be good enough to see this clearly, but aren't those the wide target hammer and wide target trigger that came with target 57s? Maybe this gun came this way in the box, or maybe it was tuned up at the factory at the first owner's request. The cylinder release looks to be MIM, but that doesn't mean the hammer and trigger had to be.

I'm not sure this would have come with combat grips. Targets, maybe? My X-ray vision fails me from time to time, but I think that would have to be a round butt under the rubber. Not sure if all 657-3 models had round butts, or only some.

Please let us know what more you learn about it.

David W.
 
Beatiful revolver, Michael. I hope to do so well in finging my own 41 Magnum.

In the interest of allowing you some shooting time with the beast (it DOES deserve to be used), I'd suggest a Lee hand press. You can likely be loading with an investment of 100 dollars, or less. No need for a table or bench, just your own arms and a stable surface (floor?) to rest your equipment on when it's not in your hands.
 
I too acquired a 657 right before Christmas in a trade for a Springfield Armory TRP 45 ACP. Mine is the 657-5 with the non-fluted cylinder and 7.5" barrel. It has the factory rubber grips which appear to be Hogue. These are too small for my hands. Are the Pachymar grips bigger? Mine was factory with the wide smooth trigger.
 
Mike...a nice gun... I have a -3 just like it but with a non-ported barrel.

Contact Georgia Arms for ammo. They have reasonably priced 210 grain LSW that should be a pleasure to shoot in that ported gun.

Bob
 
mike...nice gun...i have a 657 with non-fluted cylinder and 7.5"barrel...a great gun to shoot!i reload this caliber...its easy and sure makes it within budget...41 mag.factory ammo here is over the top!
 
Originally posted by SuperMan:
Mike...a nice gun... I have a -3 just like it but with a non-ported barrel.

Contact Georgia Arms for ammo. They have reasonably priced 210 grain LSW that should be a pleasure to shoot in that ported gun.

Bob

+1 The LSWC's are great for plinking. Their Gold Dots are deer stoppers extrodinaire. I have my Rock Chucker and don't save alot for the effort reloading with GA's prices.

IMO the .41 mag is the best round out there for doing it all and not getting beat up in the process.

Nice Gun!!
 
Michael nice looking 657. Don't wait to reload with the $ you save on ammo you can buy more Smiths. Here is the 657-4 that I picked up around Christmas. Enjoy you new Smith reload and enjoy it often!

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I helped a friend buy some basic reloading tools and components last month.
It cost him about 150 dollars to shoot his first 500 rounds of cast bullets, brass not included as he has been saving factories.
He has never experienced such good results with his revolver shooting factory loads.
 
I have reloaded for ALL of my revolvers and auto loaders since my early teens. You will save a great deal by reloading and even more when you start casting your own bullets.

You can get set up reloading using a Lee Classic Turret press and related necessaries for about $200.00 if you buy carefully. Look at prices online at F&M Reloading, Midway, Natchez, or Graf & Sons. The Lee Classic Loader will enable you, after a short learning curve to load 150-200 rounds per hour with minimal set up time and minimum space. I cast my own bullets so can load from $1.50-$2.50 per box depending on which centerfire caliber we are discussing.

I have taken a number of deer with my .44 Magnums and have shot tens of thousands of rounds with .32's, .38's, .357's, .44 Specials/Magnums, as well as .45 ACP/Auto Rims, .45 Colt and .454 Casull. I have cast and reloaded for all.

It is VERY satisfying to pack your freezer with meat from your own casting and reloading skills. It is also very satisfying to win matches with ammo you have crafted yourself.

It is also quite practical to tailor loads specifically for the use intended. It is no more necessary to run a revolver "full bore" than it is to run your auto at 100 mph all the time. I shoot more target loads than full loads but the full loads are available when I need them.

Good luck with your wonderful new acquisition!

FWIW
Dale53
 

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