No love out there for certain polymer pistols

[ladder13]

Playing devil's advocate (and maybe this deserves its own thread) :

Could the complaints many have about striker triggers be described as a training issue? (Dons flame suit )

I say this because of the howls I see online by people testing the SCCY CPX series of pistols that have a trigger like a DAO revolver, i.e. no reset. It drives the reset mafia nuts. Does a trigger being different automatically make it bad?

...and I'll say again, I started this thread as a commentary on what polymer pistols are selling, and which are not. This was never about steel vs polymer, or so I thought.

I like your style and the way you challenge pack mentality.

 

[serger]

I too have noticed Polymer pistols have a depressed
range of prices and service pistol sizes tend to
go for less than the compacts.

Case(s) in point:

Both gone off GunBroker Thanksgiving week 2022.

1. Gen 1 S&W M&P, 1 mag in 40 S&W for $210.00

2. Taurus G2C, 1 mag in 9mm for $119.00

The Smith was an Ex-PD weapon with holster wear.
The Taurus was dirty and full of lint/crud.

Both these used weapons sold for less than 1/2 of new
retail.

LVSteve, you're right.

 

[uncleted327]

I wish some of those depressed prices people are talking about were around me. Most Gun stores still have new Glocks almost $100 higher than they should be, with used ones going for close to what new ones should be at. Soft people have led to micro 9mms being the rage, doesn't bother me because I still prefer bigger guns and bigger calibers, both in steel and Tupperware...

 

[Bullet Bob]

I like all guns.

I don't buy used polymer guns because everybody seems to think they're the second coming of P.O. Ackley, and I don't what they've done to them, or how well. I realize you have to take information posted to the internet with several grains of salt, but the posts on some forums give me the heebie-jeebies. Perhaps I just scare easy.

My used revolver buying has almost stopped for the same reason.

 

[44wheelman]

Again with the Glocks? It’s like bragging about owning a Toyota Corolla.

To the op’s point, too many other (plastic) mousetraps out there, so market is somewhat saturated; now it’s all about what the cool kids are shooting.

 

[Harry Callihan]

I would trust my life with a Glock any day of the week. I had a CZ Rami, all metal gun, that had feeding issues. Nice gun but for that reason I never carried it. NEVER once have I ever had a Glock malfunction. Not saying that they don't, I never have experienced it and I have fired lots of them.

 

[hyena]

To address the OP's original post, the brands posted as examples are mostly premium names. Full size polymer guns, especially, 9's, are a dime a dozen in so many lower priced brands I think it pushed down the prices of the used guns listed.

Also, without being privy to any sales figures, I'd have to think the large increase in number of people carrying concealed has lowered the demand for full size polymers. It seems like every time I'm at a LGS counter within earshot of a new customer, the guy behind the counter is touting some version of a high capacity micro 9.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

I like Glocks-they just don't like me. Grip is all wrong. the full S&W M&P9 1.0 fits the bill wonderfully. This pistol is destined to become the plastic version of the Model 10. Mine has a safety because I wanted it. My SIG 365 also has a safety as do my Bodyguard .380 and my Shield .45.
The bodyguard is a wonderful size and is my EDC. I am waiting for Smith to make a .380 bodyguard MAX like the Ruger, I much prefer the true double action hammer fired Bodyguard over the striker Ruger but the Ruger really feels great in my hand.

 

[Heinz]

LVSteve, I think your original observation on prices of various polymer pistols was interesting. I believe I have seen the same phenomenon here in South Carolina with the small frame polymers pistols getting more interest and a higher percentage of retail price than the full size Glocks, CZ and others. I get a feeling that the audience for the small polymers was both new shooters, and old shooters of traditional wood and steel going for a small carry piece.

Almost all my handguns are steel frames, but I do have a P22 I carry a lot. And, because I shoot it a lot, am proficient with it. And the P22 does have me looking at some of those small 9mm but certainly not the full size polymers. Maybe others are thinking the same. Other opinions may vary

 

[DevilDog72]

I carried a Mdl 19-4 snub for years until a few years ago. Found myself in a BLM demonstration... long story short I now carry a M&P 2.0 compact 9mm. excellent carry pistol. Totally reliable. My night stand gun is a 1st Gen Glock 17... thousands of rounds down range with 1 fte... ran it dry. It would be my go to war sidearm.

I have 9 S&W revolvers, 1 1911 and 2 plastic pistols

 

[Rubone]

I have a couple of Springfield Armory pistols, a full size XD45 and an XD40 Service model. Both are accurate, easy to use, and basically foolproof, never an issue with either. Also a Shield 40 2.0 and a Kel-Tec PMR30. There are a couple of Glocks in my safe, my wife's 42 and a 19 that officially belongs to a neighbor. (A funny story in itself). No issues with polymer pistols for me, but I have plenty of steel and wood to offset their existence.

 

[pasound]

Glocks don't fit my hand, or maybe it's vice-versa. But my 365's, my Ruger American .45, even my SCCY do. They have their place, and my 6906 does too. All my support to what one likes.

 

[LCC]

Have high regard for the Glock 48 w/Marksman barrel, a finely balanced and highly accurate pistol, more accurate than my G17 and G19.
The Taurus G series are excellent budget pistols, essentially Glock clones, can go out the door for under $250 on sale.
It would take something special to come out, however, to replace my current EDC of either LCP Gen 2 or 365X.

 

[DWalt]

I say this because of the howls I see online by people testing the SCCY CPX series of pistols that have a trigger like a DAO revolver, i.e. no reset. It drives the reset mafia nuts. Does a trigger being different automatically make it bad?

The SCCY gets no respect. Yet mine, a CPX-1 with an external safety, is highly reliable and even shoots a respectable group inside 50 feet, plenty good enough for any SD need. Agreed, the DAO trigger pull is heavy like a revolver, but after you get used to it, that is no problem at all. And the CPX-1 is possibly the safest semiauto on Earth. An unintentional discharge from any cause is nearly impossible. I can’t express an opinion on the current SCCY striker-fired pistols, but I don’t need to as I am very happy with the CPX-1, just as-is. It has everything you need, and nothing you don’t.

 

[LimaCharlie]

I love my steel and wood handguns. I don't love the three polymer handguns I own. I respect them because they are reliable an have more capacity.

 

[BKLooney]

My mix of handguns is probably split 50/50 of steel/wood and polymer, I see and realize the good in all of them, or I wouldn't own them.

My current daily carry is one of my Glock 19's with the now ever present LCP Max in my pocket. The 19's have had thousands of rounds put down range, the .380 has launched a little over 600..I do trust my life and that of my family with these choices.

I have a P365 that I carried for quite a bit and although it is a really nice carry gun I have settled back in with the main pistol being a 19 and the little .380 as a BUG. From time to time I will slip a S&W 642 in my pocket riding in a Alabama pocket holster.

 

[serger]

You know, ya'll talking about DAO pistols reminded me
how well I shoot my Kahr's. I picked up the first, a CM-9
after shooting my friends PM-9 on the annual trip home
to SW Wyoming.

It reminded me of a double action revolver but was
skinny. Since I've shot those for ever where was a very
small learning curve. I've had discussions at other sites on
this and striker fired folks for the most part don't like DAO
pistols or ones you can't feel the reset.

When the 40 S&W fell out of favor and the Police were
getting rid of them I got the chance to fire a SIG P226 DAK
equipped pistol that, for me handled like a skinny revolver.
I think (at least in my case) knowing how to shoot a double
action revolver made me less reluctant to look at handguns
that were a little different.

I mean the fundamentals of sidearm shooting are constant:

1. Get a proper sight picture.

2. Press the trigger until it goes bang while maintaining the
sight picture.

Sorry for the thread drift.......... I can't help myself.

 

[uncleted327]

I agree about Kahrs, they are striker fired but feel like a very nice double action revolver. The hard-core Tupperware guys usually bad mouth them about the lack of reset and pull length. But I've had more than a few and they are excellent. Revolver guys usually love them and the price for the economy series are very reasonable. I guess some people just live to complain though...

 

[Gene L]

As big as I am a plastic fan, I realized I only have 1! A Sig 365. I've had others but my poly shelf is relatively empty. I need a Glock 19 but probably won't get one.

 

[Laketime]

I have two Taurus G2C’s for the price of one Glock. Functions flawlessly like a Glock but not as ugly and has a safety to boot.