No Mag Disconnect AND No Warning on Slide

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FredR

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Hello,

Recently picked up a brand new M&P... at first I thought it had a magazine disconnect because there was no warning printed on the side of the slide.

Well, I quickly realized that there is no magazine disconnect after all. This is a brand new firearm - this a case of Smith putting the wrong slide on during assembly?

Wasn't sure if others have heard of this happening...

Thanks.
 
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I know, I know...we all like warning labels!:eek: But as long as you know that's what matters...the gun and the ammo don't care...and the bad guy won't notice. One less mark on your gun.:)
 
Sounds nice, I don't care for a mag disconnect just one more thing to go wrong and can't stand all the "lawyer" warnings on guns. I have a New Model Ruger single action and that poor thing must have half the safety manual stamped on the barrel.
 
First post.

Wild claim.

No pictures.

You guys do what you want.


Hey, I have an M&P with no warning label and no mag safety too.

You just pop out the lever and it's gone. ;)

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Lost Lake said:
First post.

Wild claim.

No pictures.

You guys do what you want.


Hey, I have an M&P with no warning label and no mag safety too.

You just pop out the lever and it's gone. ;)

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At least this thread wasn't started with the usual first post about how the gun blew up using factory ammo with the first shot fired and S&W won't fix it under warranty. This is usually followed with the OP saying they have no idea what ammo did it because he keeps his ammo in a bowl and throws the boxes away. He also has seven different brands on hand. The S&W lifetime warranty isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

It's entertaining around these parts tonight.
 
What I hate is to get a beautiful gun only with a bunch of mess stamped into it messing up that beautiful gun. I hate lawyers.
 
What I hate is seeing the S&W Classic revolvers which are supposed to be collectible models such as Dirty Harry's gun having the stupid key hole right above the cylinder release lever. That's messed up as the originals were not built that way. GARY
 
I'm glad my Shield does not have that warning. If you need that warning you should give some serious thought about having a sidearm.
 
Lost Lake said:
First post.

Wild claim.

No pictures.

You guys do what you want.


Hey, I have an M&P with no warning label and no mag safety too.

You just pop out the lever and it's gone. ;)

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Ok.. here is my 2nd post.

Not sure what makes this such a wild claim? Thought it was a simple question to a group that would have some feedback.

Pictures? You don't know what a slide looks like without the warning? Didn't think a picture was needed to describe my question.

Sorry I don't have 3700 posts...

Thanks to those who helped. I'll just assume it was a miss at Smith during assembly.

Fred
 
It's possible that the potential mistake in slide labeling will continue to haunt you every time you pick up the pistol. Call Smith and see if they will send you a label. You can send the pistol in and get the slide switched out for a properly labeled one. It is the best and right solution. :)
 
Rastoff said:
I see it as a simple question not a wild claim.

S&W makes a lot of M&Ps. Is it possible for them to have put a slide without the warning on a gun without a mag disconnect? Absolutely!

Like others, I think the warning is silly. Safety is in between your ears, not on the gun.
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Maybe it HAD a disconnect and the LGS thought it would be easier to sell without it, so THEY removed the lever?
 
This isnt likely a miss at S&W. They purposefully make different versions of he same model for the varying needs of their customers.

This is obvious when you see the models with or without the thumb safeties.

Go to the Smith site or grab a catalog and you will see all the variations in the M&P line.
 
FredR said:
Ok.. here is my 2nd post.

Not sure what makes this such a wild claim? Thought it was a simple question to a group that would have some feedback.

Pictures? You don't know what a slide looks like without the warning? Didn't think a picture was needed to describe my question.

Sorry I don't have 3700 posts...

Thanks to those who helped. I'll just assume it was a miss at Smith during assembly.

Fred
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Your post was fine...Lost Lake was just teasing you.;)
 
Don 73 said:
Maybe it HAD a disconnect and the LGS thought it would be easier to sell without it, so THEY removed the lever?
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A dealer modifying a gun and then selling it as stock? That would be a very risky move on their part. No, I don't think the dealer did it.
 
lhump1961 said:
Your post was fine...Lost Lake was just teasing you.;)
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Well.... Not really. :p

Seriously: Post a picture of the internals. Is the mag safety bent? Caught on something?

I really think it is unlikely the gun shipped like this by accident. I would hope they would have caught that in the function check stage.

Fred, welcome aboard, and I hope you don't get the wrong impression. We are a really great group of gun enthusiasts, and I'm really happy these guys and gals let me hang out here.

But we get some weird ones that come around and say some crazy stuff in their first few posts, so I'm quick to question them.

If you do a search on mag safety you will see pictures and diagrams how the thing works and how it is easily removed.

You may have a rare mistake and maybe S&W would like to send you a new slide and a couple mags for your troubles.... ;)

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Hello and thanks for the comments everyone - much appreciated.

Lost Lake - my sincere apologies... I should not have reacted and definitely not sounded off like I did... was a bit cranky and got defensive. thanks for your feedback and post.

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about this... the gun works great. I was more just curious if it was a mistake... my LGS says they did no modifications so I assume it was a factory mix-up.

I guess I could call Smith just to close the loop but not sure if it's worth it... or maybe it is just to see what type of response I get. I did check the sku on the Smith web site (thanks for that tip) and it is for a non-disconnect model - another point toward it being a potential mix-up.

Here are a couple of pics... thanks again for welcoming me to the forum.

http://s23.postimg.org/9ajpbk3gr/photo1.jpg
http://s22.postimg.org/i63sk7hfl/photo2.jpg


Fred
 
That unlabeled gun is liable to jump up & shoot someone! lol

I'm sure S&W just grabbed a slide without the warning or the batch of slides that were selected to have the warning printed on them had some skips. Monday mornings with hung over workers probably.
 
MichiganScott said:
At least this thread wasn't started with the usual first post about how the gun blew up using factory ammo with the first shot fired and S&W won't fix it under warranty. This is usually followed with the OP saying they have no idea what ammo did it because he keeps his ammo in a bowl and throws the boxes away. He also has seven different brands on hand. The S&W lifetime warranty isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

It's entertaining around these parts tonight.
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I'm with you, there is nothing wrong with been new to firearms but is getting bad as far people lacking common sense and complaining about the most irrelevant things. There was a post an an other forum about a Glock that did not come with the copper lube from factory and how the owner was concerned and I told myself (you have to be joking).
 
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