Non-drop free M&P magazines

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There are times when a non-drop free magazine is desirable. In fact the original Glock magazines were not drop free.

Anybody experiment with making an M&P magazine non-dropfree?
 
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I asked you a pretty specific question. When might it be desirable not to have drop free magazine?

When you are carrying a single magazine - such as a truck gun. You don't want the magazine lost in the vehicle. That is one example. There are lots of other cases with pocket carry of sub-compacts where you likely only have one easily accessible magazine - best to have that magazine stay with the pistol.

What you want is for the magazine to stay with the pistol until you pull it free. You can always tap-rack-bang with a magazine that dropped 1/8", but you can't do that with the only magazine that fell between the seats.

This quick-change mag stuff is holdover from gamers.
 
There are times when a non-drop free magazine is desirable.
Huh?...Sometimes I carry 6 mags...5 of which have Hyve extensions. They are all wrapped with grip tape, so as to not mar them when I drop them, no matter what surface they hit...but please explain why you would not want to drop them...other than a drive-by and you don't want to leave any evidence behind?
 
Huh?...Sometimes I carry 6 mags...5 of which have Hyve extensions. They are all wrapped with grip tape, so as to not mar them when I drop them, no matter what surface they hit...but please explain why you would not want to drop them...other than a drive-by and you don't want to leave any evidence behind?

Thats nice mall ninja, but lots of folks in the real world carry a single magazine.
 
Mall Ninja?...I actually do work at a mall...I am Security for a Victoria's Secrets store...Undercover Security...$15 per hr...but I talked them down...they wanted $19 per hr....but I had to give up the rocking chair...funny guy!
 
When you are carrying a single magazine - such as a truck gun. You don't want the magazine lost in the vehicle. That is one example. There are lots of other cases with pocket carry of sub-compacts where you likely only have one easily accessible magazine - best to have that magazine stay with the pistol.

What you want is for the magazine to stay with the pistol until you pull it free. You can always tap-rack-bang with a magazine that dropped 1/8", but you can't do that with the only magazine that fell between the seats.

This quick-change mag stuff is holdover from gamers.

If your mag is releasing enough to be a problem, you need to find a better carry method/holster.
 
Duct tape?

Actually, way back when, magazine retention was a primary reason for mag releases at the base of the magazine, but they might have issues also. However, at that time, handguns-in the military-were largely an indicator of rank rather than as an actual fighting tool. That mindset probably had something to do with the magazine safety design on the Browning HP. The recipient got the handgun and 2-3 magazines and that was supposed to be sufficient for the war/their career. Probably also had something to do with the original Glock design. Ol Gaston was neither a shooter nor a soldier. Being on a horse is why original 1911 mags had lanyard loops.

No offense intended, but not carrying at least one spare magazine is short sighted for numerous reasons.
 
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When you are carrying a single magazine - such as a truck gun.

Oh, see there you have it I never carry just a single magazine and I don't do truck guns

This quick-change mag stuff is holdover from gamers.

You do realize there are few people in this forum who have actually had to use their guns and self-defense?
 
You do realize there are few people in this forum who have actually had to use their guns and self-defense?
Your point is irrelevant and I could care less.
 
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Gentlemen, this can be a reasonable discussion. Let's not allow it to devolve into some yelling match. A note from the rules...
UNDERSTAND this-
We WON'T change the World here, nor will we be able to fix all the ills afflicting our society.
This forum is not here for the purpose of converting other posters to your ideals, beliefs, and opinions.
 
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Mall Ninja?...I actually do work at a mall...I am Security for a Victoria's Secrets store...Undercover Security...$15 per hr...but I talked them down...they wanted $19 per hr....but I had to give up the rocking chair...funny guy!

The only problem with doing security at Victoria's Secret is the reality gap between the women who model Victoria's Secret and the women who buy Victoria's Secret
 
IDK, I've been armed pretty consistently since 2007 and I can't think of a single time I've inadvertently dropped a magazine. They teach you not to at The Mall Ninja Training Academy
 
There are times when a non-drop free magazine is desirable. In fact the original Glock magazines were not drop free.

Anybody experiment with making an M&P magazine non-dropfree?

I have had guns with mags that would not drop if they were fully loaded. There seemed to be some shape shifting of the metal mag tube when loaded. When empty they dropped free. That was ideal, especially if the mag was not properly seated to begin with, or the release was hit accidentally.

You can experiment with two-part epoxy such as JB Weld. Put a few drops on each side of the very well cleaned mag at different vertical spacing. Let cure thoroughly. Then sand or file the epoxy until it adds just the amount of additional friction you want. It is very durable but easily replaced if necessary. You may find a certain number of drops, fewer (even just one) or more, works better for you. Do it only to one mag to begin with until you get it right, although having only the mag you keep in the gun adjusted might be wise.

Be sure the bottom of your mag well is flared and very smooth so you have less likelihood of knocking off your adjustment bumps.

Have your gun function how you want it. You have to live with it.
 
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Well, I asked and you answered OP. Those reasons would never convince me it a good thing but then this is not about me and my gun, it's about you and yours.

Perhaps add some material to the inside of the magwell, outside of the mag or perhaps expand the magbody slightly to create drag. I think a few wraps of Teflon tape around the base of the mag would do the trick.
 
What just happened? That whole exchange was bizarre. What is more likely: going to use a pistol defensively and realizing your mag was loose but thankfully didn't drop free or using your pistol defensively and benefiting from the speed advantage of drop free mags? If have never heard of the former - plenty of examples of the latter.
 
What just happened? That whole exchange was bizarre. What is more likely: going to use a pistol defensively and realizing your mag was loose but thankfully didn't drop free or using your pistol defensively and benefiting from the speed advantage of drop free mags? If have never heard of the former - plenty of examples of the latter.

Because any mag can get hung up coming out of a grip, for defensive use I have been taught to always pull the mag out and stow it (if there is enough time) or drop it if necessary. So, even if mags drop free, I pull them out.

If you expect a mag to drop free and go for the next mag, and the mag does not come out of the grip, you have a harder time removing it while holding the replacement mag. Having one procedure that always works is better than having two different ones that may require recognition and adaptation.
 
If your mag being drop free is a concern for you, might I recommend a Single Action revolver, or perhaps a derringer?
 

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