Not a S&W, but ?'s about a AMT Back-Up .45 a.c.p. PHOTOs

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I found a AMT Back-Up .45 a.c.p. today for cheap. I have owned a few AMT products 20+ years ago, never liked them. However, this AMT is certainly small, holds six rounds, and (if the dang thing works) would be a nasty close range defense gun. I can't quit thinking of it, even while cleaning my newly purchased S&W #469.

Anybody have experience with the AMT Back-Up .45?
 
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I found a AMT Back-Up .45 a.c.p. today for cheap. I have owned a few AMT products 20+ years ago, never liked them. However, this AMT is certainly small, holds six rounds, and (if the dang thing works) would be a nasty close range defense gun. I can't quit thinking of it, even while cleaning my newly purchased S&W #469.

Anybody have experience with the AMT Back-Up .45?
 
I picked one up when they first came out. Horrible, vicious little beast that bites on both ends. It was an excellent concept that could have used a few more months on the drawing board.

It fits in a pocket, but his too heavy to carry that way. The trigger pull is about 12 lbs, with sting so bad you will pray that you run out of ammo. No sights. It takes longer 1911 mags, but there is no way to lock them in place. They are finicky with ammo, so make sure you try a box of your favorite before actually carrying it for defense.
 
The thing that did AMT in with it's hardballer despite it's radical introduction as the first stainless steel M1911, is that the metallurgy was not quite up to the task. Competition shooters reported guns battering themselves loose after a couple thousand rounds, and even accuracy jobs did not hold up well.
 
Thanks to those who responded...however you did a poor job of talking me out of it so it is on lay-a-way right now. I will pick it up next Monday and give it a go. Being all stainless steel, I can leave it hanging on a nail in the tool shed of our vacation home.
 
"They're also good for driving nails"

Appreciate the info, since I do not think I left a hammer up there when I packed up my painting supplies last October.

The AMT did feed HB and some LWC ammo from the mag by hand, I could not fire it at the shop. I will know soon enough if I made a mistake.
 
The later DAO Backups are not as bad as people say. I just bought one in .38 Super because, like you, I couldn't get the thing out of my head. I gave $350 for it, brand new, unfired, in the box with all of the paperwork and two mags. I found 5 50rd boxes of silvertips at a local gun shop for $25ea, apparently nobody around here shoots .38 Super because they'd been gathering dust for awhile, and I ordered 13 50rd boxes of Aguila FMJ from ammunitiontogo for $13.95ea. I'll probably buy more of that because I can shoot it out of my converted S&W 360J, too.

Anyway, to get back on track, I'm very impressed with the gun. It's well put together and very nice looking, the tooling and finishing is very clean. Because of the "euro" style mag release and the fact that it doesn't have a slide lock it is very narrow and there's nothing protruding from the sides. There's no sights, just a channel cut in the top of the slide. I'm going to look into to maybe getting a big dot installed so that it sits in the groove if the slide is thick enough to do it. It weighs 23oz empty, so it's not a lightweight by todays micro-gun standards but it's comparable to a steel j-frame or a baby Glock. It's pretty small - 5 3/4" long, 4 1/16" high, and only 1" wide (the .45 is the same size and weight).

Shooting it is a blast, literally. The recoil is stout and the grip is small so you have to hang on tight. The action is very smooth, the trigger pull is long and I'd say in the 10-12lb range, it stacks up a bit before release and has a fairly long reset. It actually feels alot like my Beretta 8000D, just heavier. Also, it is second strike capable. In spite of the pullweight it is easy to keep on target because it's so smooth. I just got it a couple of weeks ago and I've only put about 75 rounds through it, a box of FMJ and half a box of silvertips. I've had no malfunctions and it shoots to point of aim, though I've only shot it out to about 7yds. The lack of sights makes shooting tight groups an effort in futility but if I try I can keep 7 in a fist size group without much trouble (the mag holds 6).

So, in conclusion, I like it alot. It looks good, shoots good, and is reliable so far. I don't know that I'll carry it because my usual off-duty guns (the 360 and a Kahr CW9) are so much lighter. I will probably use it as a car gun because it seems pretty rugged and is ideal for close range work.

That's what I think about the AMT Backup DAO. I say you should buy it and shoot it and then tell us all about it.
Oh, one other thing, from what I've read, the frame is the same on all of them except the .380 and you can swap calibers by changing the barrel, slide, and mag. These later, large frame models came in a number of hot calibers for a gun it's size - .45ACP, .38 Super, .40 S&W, 400 CorBon, 357sig, and 9mm - so you could mix and match if you wanted to hunt up the parts.

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think of it as a 6-round .45 cal J-frame; about the same weight as a M60 and as flat as anything ever made. Trigger pull is long and heavy, but workable. Mine has been reliable, some are not. Most small semiautos need a high level of user skill if they are gonna function as designed.
When they first hit the market there was nothing equal to them in terms of small and powerfull. With the advent of 11-oz 357 J-frames and the polymer P45c Kahr you have lighter weapons with equivalent power, albeit at twice the cost of the AMT.
I did put a "big dot" night sight on mine, and serrated the front strap for a better hold.
I wouldn't want to engage at distances beyond 20 feet with the AMT trigger pull. With the Kahr or 340sc I don't feel restricted by the quality of the trigger pull.
 
I must have picked up a good one, as it goes bang every time. Trigger pull is heavy, but after getting used to it I like it. Also has Novak sights, and the Pachmayr grip sleeve helps a bit too. No markings on this one other than the strange serial #.

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Originally posted by j2k22:
I did put a "big dot" night sight on mine, and serrated the front strap for a better hold.

Could possibly post a couple of pics of your gun? I'd like to see how your sight install came out.

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The sights on yours look great, who did the installation?
 
I bought the dang thing today on the way home, LOL! I will snap a few photos of it and post them later.
 
Snapped a quick photo of it lying on a $20.00 bill to show size. I didn't get to shoot it tonight. $130.00 + tax, I hope to God it works.
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A photo with the S&W #469. The AMT loaded weighs 28 ounces, same as my S&W #908 loaded.
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Wow, $130! You weren't kidding when you said cheap. Looks pretty good though, can't wait to hear how it shoots.
 

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