Not Really a Bear Thread

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Will the .44 Magnum do it's part if the shooter does his if called into service in grizzly country, most likely in the lower 48. Reason I am asking is because I am trying to justify the Ruger Toklat I looked at today, while trying to talk myself out of it at the same time. I already have 2 .44s, one a Model 29and the other a SBH, both with the shorter barrels. Load would be a 240-300 gr. hard cast LSWC. I really have no need for a .454 Casull. Biggest, meanest thing I probably will hunt would be a black bear and a hunt is starting to find it's way into my future plans.

Update: I did buy the Toklat, with the intention of leaving it in the unfired condition I bought it in and selling it come hunting season. I'm thinking it's a gun intended for Alaska and when a bear hunter decides he needs one and can't find one I will sell mine.
 
If I were to buy a .454 Casull, it would be a Freedom Arms revolver. I just don't see a need for one...and see Toklats on sale from buyers who likely don't need them either. Too much gun?
 
Get the Toklat. You'll love it + .44 mag is minimal for grizzly.

Edit-I see you got it already. Mine saved my bacon last year from an angry 250 lb. sow. I'd keep it if I were you.
 
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"Named for the Toklat River in central Alaska, this variant of the Ruger Super Redhawk would make an excellent general purpose handgun. This gun has a satin stainless finish and an unfluted cylinder with a 5" slab sided barrel and adjustable sights (red insert ramp front/white outline notch rear). The textured rubber finger groove grips help manage recoil. The powerful .454 Casull is a capable round for defense against bears and other dangerous game."
 
"Named for the Toklat River in central Alaska, this variant of the Ruger Super Redhawk would make an excellent general purpose handgun. This gun has a satin stainless finish and an unfluted cylinder with a 5" slab sided barrel and adjustable sights (red insert ramp front/white outline notch rear). The textured rubber finger groove grips help manage recoil. The powerful .454 Casull is a capable round for defense against bears and other dangerous game."


ahhhh, yes, but could also be named after the blond colored grizzly.

(The so-called Toklat grizzly from the Alaska Range is a striking pale golden color with chocolate-colored lower parts.) The body is massive and thick, with a prominent hump on the shoulders and a huge head supported by a short, muscular neck. The facial profile is concave. The front claws often exceed 3-3/4 inches (95 cm) in length, and are used primarily for digging and as weapons.
 
"Named for the Toklat River in central Alaska, this variant of the Ruger Super Redhawk would make an excellent general purpose handgun. This gun has a satin stainless finish and an unfluted cylinder with a 5" slab sided barrel and adjustable sights (red insert ramp front/white outline notch rear). The textured rubber finger groove grips help manage recoil. The powerful .454 Casull is a capable round for defense against bears and other dangerous game."

Might be a little better than the 454 Alaskan with it's 2.5" barrel.

It's a bit bigger and heavier, but the 454 Casull round needs a longer barrel than 2.5" to develop it's full potential IMO.

RUGER SUPER REDHAWK ALASKAN TOKLAT .454 CASULL 5.5" (TALO)
 
Me too. Another bear thread would be unbearable. We need to keep bear threads to a bare minimum.

Thanks for the laugh. I needed that. Believe it or not, my next sentence in my earlier post was going to be, "I don't think I could bear it"...but then I thought, no, don't do that.
 
At close range any full-power .44 Magnum fired into a bear's skull will stop an attack and get the job done. They don't need any special names.
 
My feelings are...if you find yourself needing to grab your sidearm because a Grizzly is about to get a hold of you, things have already gone terribly wrong and you are in for physical harm even if you get a shot or 2 into it. But at that point, a short barrel .44 with stout ammo and bullets will be a good thing provided you get a hold of the gun and can make one count in time.
 
Who needs another caliber? Unless the shelves run bare, then the need for alternate ammo launchers rears its head.
 
That is one ugly gun. It will never reside in my safe with my beautiful Smiths! Don't care what caliber it is in! Gez! At least get a .500 Smith.

Heh.. I did!! Not that I'm after any bear but I'm prepared if those pesky elephants show up again this year to raid my apple trees....:D
 
That is one ugly gun. It will never reside in my safe with my beautiful Smiths! Don't care what caliber it is in! Gez! At least get a .500 Smith.

I guess that's what makes the world go around. I have 3 S&W revolvers and all 3 are beautiful (29, 686 and 642). I just do not care for the X-Frame revolvers, I find them to be ugly. The Toklat is not the most beautiful gun either, but I bought it hopefully to sell anyway.
 

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