NYPD Revolvers, show what you got!

[LOBO]

64-3 NY-1 square butt that shipped to One P.P. New York, NY on 6-10-1987,

 

[Haff the Dutchman]

I don't think those stampings on the crane mean anything, they are assembly marks used by the guys putting the guns together. I have similar stampings on my S&Ws.
Funny how that S&W made it's way overseas!

I was just wondering as in the letter, Roy Jinks wrote he has no idea about the RBf or R3f markings meaning, so they are not as common and easily identifiable as assembly marks like the factory 5 digit number and even the 4 and the Ko he did not mention in the letter.
But still the other question remains, is there any chance to associated this gun with anybody from the NYPD only by serial number. Btw looks if something has carefully grinded off the backstrap, maybe the officers name or shield number, so only got the sn. As searched the forum, the one to know maybe is Mr. Vivas but he seems absent for a while.

Best regards from Austria, Haff

 

[duck32man]

Sorry to revive an old thread but is there anyone still around that know how to track down info using shield number? I have a m&p from 1954-55 with a for digit shield. Was from nypd and came with a holster. I'd like to know about the officer that carried it. Thanks

 

[Absalom]

Contact Robert Vivas at the e-mail address on his website. Link below. I was last in touch with him last fall. He should have records for that time period, at least if the gun was sold through the NYPD Equipment Bureau. He'll need the serial number of the gun.
If that doesn't work, for info via the shield number, you'd have to go through NYPD via a Freedom of Information Act request, and I don't know whether just having the shield number is enough for that; from all I've heard, they don't part with info about individual officers voluntarily unless you can prove that you are a family member.

NYPD Small Arms Page - Issue Guns & Markings - RM Vivas

 

[rich5674]

Nickel NYPD revolvers

Upon my moms passing I found paperwork concerning my fathers NYPD off duty Smith 36. The letter (dated 1960) was from his comanding officer granting him permission to aquire and carry the nickel 36. My retired NYPD brother carries the 36 today. I do remember the incident of mistaken identity because of the revolver mentioned earlier on this thread

 

[policerevolvercollector]

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[policerevolvercollector]

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[Absalom]

Was the Model 15 on the approved list?

There are forum members around who are or were actual NYPD officers and likely have a definite answer.

Until one of them speaks up, I'll throw out my semi-educated opinion that NYPD did not authorize any adjustable-sight S&W revolvers at any point for officer carry. All K-frames were variants of the fixed-sight M&P, up to and including the final NY-1 models.

 

[Bell Charter Oak Holsters]

Here are a couple, one for sure and a maybe I have'nt been able to attribute to a particular department so why not NYC?
First a .32 HE, I don't know how common they are but no one has mentioned one yet. Nothing special, maybe 80% with a rack #254.

The other is a .38 perfected with a rack number S273 on the butt and "P.S. Connor" engraved somewhat simply on the backstrap. There are a number of these floating around but I haven't found an accurate attribution yet. Any one have any ideas?

The .32 Hand Ejector may have been a policewomans. I have a few later than yours, but another one like yours in the photo, pre war I'm guessing and a bit older than yours shown in the photo above, perhaps, with service stocks rather than the Magna type your gun sports. Never had it lettered. It's my best girls favorite shooter and constant companion. Many of them when encountered even today, survived in pretty good shape, especially NYPD or other area PD weapons, because of the way they were carried back then. Consider the time, era. Well protected from the weather in a lady's shoulder handbag, unlike our service revolvers which were subjected to rain, snow and other abuses. If you have familiarity with the type of uniform holsters we carried, you understand they provided little protection from the elements for the service weapon. The uniform coat/blouse or raincoat was about all that covered the weapon, sometimes, if you had thought of it. In most cases, the cover clothing wicked moisture and did more harm than good, to tell the truth. I saw a cop, I think he was either a Housing or Transit policeman, walking with a plastic sandwich bag over the grip frame of his revolver, on a rainy summer day. I told my radio car partner to pull over to see that. Guess he had finished the sandwich the wife had made for lunch!

There was actually a policewomans uniform shoulder/handbag with special compartments for weapon, cuffs, spare ammo.....and the usual ladies other personal equipment, but I don't have a photo of one, nor personal familiarity as you may understand. I recall however, that someone on this forum posted a photo of one. If you can find it, you may perhaps find it of interest.

Cheers;
Lefty

 

[kbm6893]

There are forum members around who are or were actual NYPD officers and likely have a definite answer.

Until one of them speaks up, I'll throw out my semi-educated opinion that NYPD did not authorize any adjustable-sight S&W revolvers at any point for officer carry. All K-frames were variants of the fixed-sight M&P, up to and including the final NY-1 models.

I am retired NYPD. I started with the Model 64 NY-1 model. My off duty was the Ruger SPNY. I am not aware of any adjustable sighted revolver ever issued. I no longer have either revolver. I sold them when I was stupid. When the job went to 9MM, guys were selling their revolvers and duty leather for $100 bucks for the set. Man was I stupid to do that.

 

[pigbike]

I sold my Model 10 HB in 1976 when I moved from NY. In 2015 I bought it back from the person I sold it to in 1976. Good to have it home again after 39 years. Still in excellent condition.