Obnoxious “Kid” Carrying In/At Waldmartan

[LoboGunLeather]

Isn't there the small matter of it being a federal offense to carry in a post office?

Many rural USPS stations are located in leased spaces rather than stand-alone buildings. Parking areas are either public or shared lots in strip malls, etc.

Yes, carrying firearms on USPS property is generally prohibited. However, determining exactly what is USPS property is confusing in many smaller communities. The PO Box lobby may be in a shared portion of a commercial building and the service counter more of a kiosk than a dedicated post office. You might be in a USPS facility and not even know it as you look for a restroom or get a cup of coffee.

The days of every community having a granite or concrete monolith US POST OFFICE are long gone.

Here in Pueblo, Colorado the main post office was at downtown at 5th & Main for decades. Main floor was the post office operation, upstairs was United States District Court offices and courtrooms, basement included a holding facility for the US Marshal, the FBI and INS had offices in the building. Today the same building is just another privately owned office building. Parking is still a problem.

If I mail a letter in Pueblo to another address in Pueblo it will go 45 miles north to the big regional USPS Mail Handling Facility in Colorado Springs for sorting, then return to a postal station for delivery. Pueblo County has only about 150,000 residents so we no longer rate a real Post Office.

Many of the smaller communities in the area are served by store-front operations or modular structures, mostly with limited staffing and hours of operation. Maybe a sign on the door, maybe not.

 

[paplinker]

Many rural USPS stations are located in leased spaces rather than stand-alone buildings. Parking areas are either public or shared lots in strip malls, etc.

Yes, carrying firearms on USPS property is generally prohibited. However, determining exactly what is USPS property is confusing in many smaller communities. The PO Box lobby may be in a shared portion of a commercial building and the service counter more of a kiosk than a dedicated post office. You might be in a USPS facility and not even know it as you look for a restroom or get a cup of coffee.

The days of every community having a granite or concrete monolith US POST OFFICE are long gone.

Here in Pueblo, Colorado the main post office was at downtown at 5th & Main for decades. Main floor was the post office operation, upstairs was United States District Court offices and courtrooms, basement included a holding facility for the US Marshal, the FBI and INS had offices in the building. Today the same building is just another privately owned office building. Parking is still a problem.

If I mail a letter in Pueblo to another address in Pueblo it will go 45 miles north to the big regional USPS Mail Handling Facility in Colorado Springs for sorting, then return to a postal station for delivery. Pueblo County has only about 150,000 residents so we no longer rate a real Post Office.

Many of the smaller communities in the area are served by store-front operations or modular structures, mostly with limited staffing and hours of operation. Maybe a sign on the door, maybe not.

My mail box is considered federal property.
Not sure who owns the building would hold up in court. Maybe, maybe not. I will not be the guy testing it out.

 

[Racer X]

Wal Mart has a no open carry policy. They should have shown him the door.

signs mean nothing, and most stores ignore their own signs, and even state law if it would cause a confrontation. Washington State law/health code. No animals in a grocery store, or big box store selling groceries, unless a legit seeing eye dog in uniform. I have NEVER seen anyone with an illegal animal even be approached, much less asked to take the animal outside.

My stepson was a box boy and said their policy was to look the other way unless there was an irate customer demanding something being done about it. Kroger unwritten policy.

 

[Doug M.]

The more people I meet (or see, or hear about), the more in favor of being a dog owning recluse I become. With friends like this, we don't need enemies. O/C make enemies for us; the sheeple go bananas.

 

[John_M52]

My son, now in TX, is wondering if he should get a CCW. Laws there are more lenient if you have a CCW. I point out that when I pull you over and you have a CCW I at least know you're not a felon.

 

[pharmer]

Geeze why does any one still shop at Walmart?

Groceries. Get meat, fish, TP, aluminum foil, laundry detergent in the cart, $70. Go across the street to Publix and same cart is $125. Wading through the "Walmartians" is the extra "tax". Joe

 

[Grayfox]

He was rubbing his exposed side arm,

I'm thinking that could be considered brandishing which could cause the kid a world of problems.

 

[03hemi]

I was entering our local Walmart today, (yep I'm a deplorable,) and was totally blown away with all the boisterous loud noise /antics from a punk butt strutting kid. He was all most "tweeking" but maybe he was? Doesn't matter it's Oregon. He was rubbing his exposed side arm, taking his time and was being obnoxiously loud.

Looked like he had a full size 1911 type pistol but it wasn't cocked and locked. He had it in a OWB holster and obviously meant to be seen.

I hope that this is just a an anomaly and not a normal trend. Peacock "kids" with firearms is not a good thing. My first thought was to just beat him with it but that could be a bad thing.

Jim

Your first mistake was going into Walmart to begin with, the "scourge" of America.

 

[cmj8591]

to me, open carry means you will be the first neutralized by a bad guy.

You beat me to it. In my world, you're not going to know I'm carrying in public unless I take it out to shoot someone. One of the biggest things we have going for us, tactically speaking, is the element of surprise.

 

[djohns6]

There are about a half a dozen ( Or more ) Walmart stores within a 30 minute drive of where I live . I can only think of two that I would avoid . And it's not because of toothless rednecks or old white women with ugly tattoos and fuzzy slippers .

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

I was entering our local Walmart today, (yep I'm a deplorable,) and was totally blown away with all the boisterous loud noise /antics from a punk butt strutting kid. He was all most "tweeking" but maybe he was? Doesn't matter it's Oregon. He was rubbing his exposed side arm, taking his time and was being obnoxiously loud.

Looked like he had a full size 1911 type pistol but it wasn't cocked and locked. He had it in a OWB holster and obviously meant to be seen.

I hope that this is just a an anomaly and not a normal trend. Peacock "kids" with firearms is not a good thing. My first thought was to just beat him with it but that could be a bad thing.

Jim

Some kid looking for trouble...and will probably find it. Remember the old Johnnny Cash song "Billy, don't take your guns to town"?

IMHO he's trying to make up for what he lacks in other areas.

 

[Golddollar]

Well I really like the cost savings compared to the limited other options. I, (we,) can save over $50.00 a month, not much but a victory.

It's a bigger victory than you might think. An extra $50.00 in your pocket is $600.00 a year. My late father had one of his little one-liners that summarized the difference between gross income and net income. He always used to say "I have to make $XXX [gross income] to keep $YYY [after-tax income]". If you're in the 28% federal income tax bracket and have any kind of state and/or local income tax that $50.00 a month you save is like getting a $900 a year raise, as it's easy to lose around 1/3 of your gross income to taxes depending on where you live.

Just another example of Pop's homespun wisdom that now is coming out of my mouth.

 

[BKLooney]

to me, open carry means you will be the first neutralized by a bad guy.

I've said this so many times...

 

[Rustyt1953]

 

[Jon42]

During the start of Covid I remember seeing a "Yahoo" with a mask on and a 1911 in a nylon holster Strutting into our East Texas Walmart. I had to try hard keep from laughing. Never thought I would see a Masked Man with a pistol in a toy holster walking into our towns Walmart legally.

 

[Jack Flash]

It's a bigger victory than you might think. An extra $50.00 in your pocket is $600.00 a year. My late father had one of his little one-liners that summarized the difference between gross income and net income. He always used to say "I have to make $XXX [gross income] to keep $YYY [after-tax income]". If you're in the 28% federal income tax bracket and have any kind of state and/or local income tax that $50.00 a month you save is like getting a $900 a year raise, as it's easy to lose around 1/3 of your gross income to taxes depending on where you live.

Just another example of Pop's homespun wisdom that now is coming out of my mouth.

Similar to the Poor Richard saying "A penny saved is a penny earned", except it's better:
Money saved is money earned that can't be taxed!
At least not yet!

 

[Puller]

There are about a half a dozen ( Or more ) Walmart stores within a 30 minute drive of where I live . I can only think of two that I would avoid . And it's not because of toothless rednecks or old white women with ugly tattoos and fuzzy slippers .

You know, several Walmart stores in Mississippi and Arkansas experimented with Express Dentistry Services for customers in their stores. They seemed to do quite well as the business model was primarily for those customers with six or fewer teeth.

 

[kbm6893]

I shop at Walmart because it's cheaper and has virtually everything I need. But I can't stand being in there. Trash as far as the eye can see.

 

[pharmer]

You know if Walmart created a "catwalk bar" on top of the store folks would pay a cover charge and down overpriced drinks to "watch the show." Just a thought. Joe

 

[BabaBlueJay]

Obnoxious, maybe in our opinion, but young people will be that way sometimes. I am sure my parents thought I was a little off too as an early 20something. The touching the gun repeatedly could cause issues, but so long as he was not brandishing it or breaking the law I think a bit of advice for the young man would go further than a thrashing or ripping on him.

We need to stop fighting each other, even this kid can be redeemed if he just had a role model to explain to him the downsides of open carry and drawing attention to yourself while armed. We have enough enemies trying to take our rights as is, I would rather help this kind of kid than push him further away from the right path. Just my 2 cents.

I actually agree btw that open carry is generally a bad idea, only time I ever open carried was when my daughter was cold from swimming in Lake Erie and I took off my Hawaiian shirt to cover her where the towel stopped. Luckily I live in a 2A friendly harbor town and nobody batted an eye at the 686 on my strong side hip.