Obnoxious “Kid” Carrying In/At Waldmartan

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So the Second Amendment should be changed to only protect the people you see fit?


Would you be okay to give up your Second Amendment rights and guns if a group of people didn't like the way you looked?

"…if a groups of people didn't like the way you looked?"

I always try to look and act responsible. I'm not aware of very many political influential who object to responsible looking people.

The same can't be said for the reverse. The average voter does get concerned when irresponsible looking people open carry. They get even more concerned when a couple of those irresponsible looking people get in a shoot out.

Personally, I recognize that about 80% of shootings are gang related. There are a number of reasons for that fact that that I won't get into as it will anger both sides of whatever fence you want to consider.

But the average voter just sees it as a "gun problem", and that get reinforced when they see irresponsible and or aggressive people open carrying a gun.
 
You know, several Walmart stores in Mississippi and Arkansas experimented with Express Dentistry Services for customers in their stores. They seemed to do quite well as the business model was primarily for those customers with six or fewer teeth.

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So the Second Amendment should be changed to only protect the people you see fit?
Would you be okay to give up your Second Amendment rights and guns if a group of people didn't like the way you looked?

Again, a statement of fact, a sentiment that cannot be denied, and an understandable complaint, though it goes over the top in snark and sarcasm in being aimed at the like-minded people who truly value the Second, many who have defended it with more than just words with years of military service, among other things.

Let's turn that around . . . no, I wouldn't be OK with giving up my rights because certain people don't like the way I looked (I seem to remember Martin Luther King and thousands, black and white, forcefully making that point in the 60's).

But there is no denying that in the real world to many who operate on feelings more than fact, perception is reality, and they use their voice and their vote to fight against the false reality that all gun owners are knuckle-draggers who care more about their inanimate objects than all the innocents murdered or caught in the crossfire by people whose thought process and background never even heard of or considered the Second Amendment, the Constitution, the Bible, or even common sense.

To me, personally, it's comparable to those crude folks who use profanity and vulgar behavior in public places because society has devolved to the point where it values their "right" to do so over the right of the rest of us to be spared such behavior. It's 'free expression' and those who do it don't care if your wife, children or mother are within earshot and will get downright snarky, sarcastic, unpleasant, and even threatening if their "right" to act that way is questioned.

Like it or not, there are people who may be open to being sympathetic to our right to carry but are uncomfortable being exposed to/in the near vicinity of someone who is obviously not a law enforcement officer, openly carrying weapons they know nothing about that makes them uneasy or fearful for the safety of their loved ones or themselves. They hope you're a good guy, but idiots like the young man who is the reason this thread was started give them genuine reason to feel that way. And the real and practical result is those people damage our image, perception, and in many parts of the country . . . our rights.

My perspective ? Just because you have the right to do something, it's not always the smart thing to do it. Those that insist on doing so are not part of the solution, they're part of the problem.

No doubt there are some who will take umbrage, disagree, and grit their teeth. Fortunately I don't have any of those souls who survived the screening process for friendship in my orbit . . . .
 
No open carry for me, I like concealed. Concealed means more than you can't see it, it means no one knows. To help "conceal" the fact I have a firearm I am dress nice, polite, and carry myself as a good person. Only bad guys and cops carry guns, so I must not have one right.
Carry on
 
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Funny you write this. The last time I saw a yahoo OC was in a Walmart too. Time before was at a Harley dealer during an event. I started laughing at both of them.

Where I live is open carry and you pretty much never see it. Twice in 14 years is pretty low key.
 
I've yet to see an AR, but I do see a lot of plastic guns. You going to the Crossroads show tomorrow?

Plain forgot it was on. We spent a bunch with Christmas travels and I have a bit of a space problem. Need to thin the milsurp horde before I hit the shows again. Would appreciate an after action report if you go.:)
 
People hate the things they are afraid of. Ask anyone who is afraid of snakes or spiders if they want them all gone. Same with guns. The best way to not make people to hate guns is to make them not fear them.

You may have just provided me with the perfect "in" with a rabid gun hater in my extended family back in England. She also hates snakes, and has yet to forgive me for the 1024x768 pixel close up study of a Gopher Snake I emailed to her household about 20 years ago. I'll tell her that I want to hear no more gun hate or the snake pictures will keep on coming. BRILLIANT!!:D
 
I'm thinking that could be considered brandishing which could cause the kid a world of problems. :mad:

You are not wrong.

Unfortunately "brandishing" statutes are some of the most abused.

The dictionary definition is:

"wave or flourish (something, especially a weapon) as a threat or in anger or excitement."

And yet you are exactly right that over zealous law enforcement personnel often cite and or arrest for things like the weapon just being visible or unintentionally exposed (gust of wind, etc). That has a lot more to do with looking for probable cause or contempt of cop than anything even remotely related to a threat or a public safety concern.
 
I've seen people OC here in Woke NC. Never saw any panic. Who cares?

Not seeing any panic isn't the same as not caring.

It still makes people uncomfortable, particularly in "Woke" NC.

I conceal carry all day every day. When I see someone open carrying I wonder:

a) why he can't get a concealed carry permit, and
b) what his mental malfunction is that he thinks open carry is a good idea. Small penis size or small man syndrome are the least of the concerns on the list.

My more moderate wife and many of her liberal friends many of whom have come to me for instruction and self defense handgun buying advice) are uncomfortable with open carry because it's usually an irresponsible looking red neck doing it. They trust responsible folks like me with a gun, but the sketchy folks, that's a different story.
 
It ain't no small matter! It's a felony.

The only reason he gets away with this is small town goodness and the looking the other way of the postmaster.

I'd restate that as "the post master is smart enough to recognize there is zero value in criminalizing that old man's behavior as he poses zero threat."

Similarly, the local law enforcement officers most likely have enough common sense and officer discretion to just ignore it.
 
No open carry for me, I like concealed. Concealed means more than you can't see it, it means no one knows. To help "conceal" the fact I have a firearm I am dress nice, polite, and carry myself as a good person. Only bad guys and cops carry guns, so I must not have one right.
Carry on

Living where I live in the people republic of NY, I know for a fact you can get in a lot of trouble if your weapon shows. Note this is from over 50 years of experience, if anything it got much more worse last year.

My rational on carring is no one will first know you have a weapon unless you are patted down or walk through a metal detector.
 
Not seeing any panic isn't the same as not caring.

It still makes people uncomfortable, particularly in "Woke" NC.

I conceal carry all day every day. When I see someone open carrying I wonder:

a) why he can't get a concealed carry permit, and
b) what his mental malfunction is that he thinks open carry is a good idea. Small penis size or small man syndrome are the least of the concerns on the list.

My more moderate wife and many of her liberal friends many of whom have come to me for instruction and self defense handgun buying advice) are uncomfortable with open carry because it's usually an irresponsible looking red neck doing it. They trust responsible folks like me with a gun, but the sketchy folks, that's a different story.

People don't like AR's including "gun owners". Who cares?
 
Two choices I often pick:

Go to Target, and pay a bit more. Less stressful in every conceivable way.
Drive to a Wally in a nicer hood. I have at least three such locations within a 1/2 hour's drive.
 
Pfft... Average amateur Walmartian...

I open carry this!

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