Originally posted by Stranglehold:
Originally posted by silvercorvette:
I am too old and slow to get very far. If something happens I plan on running because I will be harder to hit, fire a round or two to try for a hit, but if I miss I will shake up the other guy to throw off his aim. Then stay behind something and keep my head down.
Silver, I hope neither myself nor any of my loved ones are anywhere downrange when you start corking off rounds "to try for a hit".
Have you forgotten you are resposible for every shot you fire? Guess if I ever visit Anderson, I better keep my head down too!
Roe
I don't fire off rounds and hope for a hit, if it sounded they way I am sorry that anyone read what I said and misunderstood. I have talked to enough cops that were in shootouts to know that no matter how good you are there are going to be a lot of misses. My first day at the range was in 1970, it was the first time I shot a hand gun. I shot next to a NY city cop that quit to become a Suffolk cop. We scored the target of the person shooting next to us and I scored his target, this guy shot a perfect score or close to it. I remarked to him about his score and commented to him about how well he shot. He told me he got into shoot out as a city cop and every shot missed. He said it is pretty common for excellent paper shooters miss the target when it is for real. I made up my mind that day in 1970 that my first priority would be to get behind cover if I ever got into a shootout. I would assume that people would take for granted that anyone would not return fire in a crowd, but if you can safely return fire it is a good tactic for two reasons, you may hit the person trying to kill you and /or your return fire will shake him up enough to throw off his aim. It is a good idea to always go over what ifs in our head. Sometimes while I am sitting in a chair waiting to see one of the bank officers I think of what ifs to past the time. I have been in the habit since I first started carrying. I now just do it as a habit that I do automatically and always think of what ifs. My what if plan if someone came into a crowded bank is to not do anything to prevent the robbery. Risking anyone’s life isn’t worth it to prevent loosing money. And beside that you have no way of knowing in he has an accomplice standing behind you ready to put a bullet in the back of your head.
When I was a cop and went to the range I always did well and sometimes shot a perfect score and was very confident I would do well if I had to shoot. But when my department introduced moving targets it opened my eyes to how important movement is.
When my department started using moving targets. They put targets on little carts that moved about 2 or 3 miles per hour on tracks so they were moving a lot slower than a man and the were on tracks in a straight line. That little bit of movement hurt my score. The center body mass hits at a still target turned into arm hit, or hitting the edge of the body outline or maybe just hitting
paper. It pretty much stands to reason that if most cops I shot with had trouble hitting a moving target. It would also be reasonable to expect that I would be more difficult to hit if I were moving. And than the guy shooting bullets in my direction is less likely to hit me if I am moving . I am as close as you can get to being 100% sure I won’t hit someone standing 10 or 15 feet off to the side of the person I am shooting at but I am not confident enough to take a shot if there is someone standing a foot or two off to the side.
To the person that asked how I am able to carry all that much ammo and guns, I have been carrying in a pocketbook for 3 or 4 years, I carry my second gun on my body in a holster. As a matter of fact I just bought a Shoulder holster for my 1911 last Saturday. And am carrying the 1911 in cold weather but will have to go back to the smaller CS45 in warm weather when I won’t be wearing the clothes that will allow me to conceal the 1911
I have been using this Dillon pocketbook to carry for the past 3 or 4 years
