I think the Shield 45 has most of the enhancements already, that the Shield 2.0 brings to the 9 and 40 models, except the integrated laser, which as far as I know, isn't available on the 45. I noticed that the 2.0 line doesn't include a 45, thus my reasoning.
Official: New S&W Shield 2.0
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I think the Shield 45 has most of the enhancements already, that the Shield 2.0 brings to the 9 and 40 models, except the integrated laser, which as far as I know, isn't available on the 45. I noticed that the 2.0 line doesn't include a 45, thus my reasoning.
The 9/40 Shield 2.0 weighs EXACTLY the same as the 1.0 and that's 20.3 ounces WITH a 6-Round magazine.
S&W has mis-stated the weight as 18 ounces without disclosing that is with NO magazine.
What relevance does the 18 ounce spec have to the real world since you can't use the gun with no magazine? The spec should be stated as the true weight of 20.3 ounces.
There are numerous examples of S&W apparently mis-stating the actual specs on various configurations of many of their offerings. Maybe this is intentional or maybe it's just plain sloppy presentation but, it's nothing new.
This. I would love a " Shield .380"
Many manufacturers state the weight of the gun without a magazine, because loaded magazines can weigh different amounts based on the weight of the bullets (Yes, bullets). The weight of the gun is constant; not so for magazines. If you need to know the weight of the loaded gun to the nearest half ounce, you need to weigh the loaded gun yourself. S&W can't do that for you since they don't know what ammo or magazines you and everybody else will use.
kbm6893
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They all have trigger safeties. The NTS means No Thumb Safety. The gun store label just called it No Manual Safety
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agreed, but when i look at the old shield, did the weigh that one with the mag in? it states its 20.3 oz. So they changed the way the weigh them? put them side by side on the page and the 1.0 says 20.3, new one says 18.x..
Yes, you are correct. Old Shield weight with empty mag;
New Shield weight without empty mag.
S&W specs regarding features, weight & size are conflicting or missing in many of their website product listings and catalogs. It makes it very difficult for a buyer to compare similar products and causes confusion, like here.
Thanks, this is good to know. I was hoping for a lighter weight shield. I would love to carry the shield more but to be honest its heavier than my CM9 and CW9. And its noticable for me. My shield almost weighs as much as my XDS in 45. Surely they could have made this lighter by a couple of oz.. Most people probably will say it doesn't matter, but it does to me.
For whatever reason, S&W decided to restate the original Shield's weight before the introduction of the 2.0.
S&W's 2016 catalog showed 19.0 ounces across the board while the 2017 catalog showed a variety of heavier weights.
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I don't really care about an ounce or two in pistol weight. With a good holster and belt for AIWB concealed carry it doesn't make any difference—to me.
For others a couple of ounces could be one of the absolutely critical characteristics that would make or break a gun purchase.
For others a couple of ounces could be one of the absolutely critical characteristics that would make or break a gun purchase.
in my calculations its about 4-5 oz over my CM/CW when both mags are full and inserted. And yes the CM holds one less but the CW is also lighter.
don't get me wrong, i love my shield, but when i saw "slimmer, lightweight" i was assuming it lost some weight and size. I can't conceal a larger gun.
don't get me wrong, i love my shield, but when i saw "slimmer, lightweight" i was assuming it lost some weight and size. I can't conceal a larger gun.
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R1_Demon
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Weird...the 2017 Shield 9 shows 20.2 and the Shield 40 shows 18.1 (both with night sights). Yet they are the same firearm. That is so weird. So you have to wonder where they are truly getting these weights from. With mags, without mags, with a squirrel stepping on the scale too or what. LOL It didn't matter to me because I was carrying a Kahr CW380 and that was like 10.5 oz and I went to a 40 Shield which was advertised at 19.0 oz, so I already knew I was going up over half a pound. It is what it is. But I find it funny that there are major inconsistencies on the same 2017 product sheet between the 9 Shield and 40 Shield since they are "supposed" to be the same frame and all that jazz.
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I would actually tend to trust the different weights in the 2017 catalog more than the across-the-board weight in the 2016 catalog.
A gun in 9mm should probably weigh more than the same gun in 40 caliber. The smaller 9mm bore means that a barrel contains more metal than the same barrel with a larger bore.
R1_Demon
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I would agree with you about them weighing different. It makes sense. I wouldn't see how they could weigh the same if they have different barrels and such. However, I never thought about a 9mm weighing more than a 40 because of more metal in the barrel. Hmmm...something to think about. I always thought about it being the opposite only because the barrel needed to be thicker in the 40 to contain the bigger psi rating of the .40 cal. But you may be right. I truly don't know. I'd have to look it up.
SmithNWesson
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I like the integrated laser. But living in MA, any work done to the trigger will not make the cut.
